3D assets marketplace CGTrader is being flooded by AI slop, but nobody is buying it, suggesting AI isn't "repricing the market."
    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      There’s worse sruff: AI generated NFTs. Allegedly the guy behind the “I identify as an attack helicopter” joke engaged in that.

  • altphoto@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    Can you invent something that can help me move 1 ton of gravel over a distance of 200ft? I need an apparatus of some kind that has never been seen or used before in the history of man kind or any book ever published. I need to move the gravel all by myself without anyone else’s help?

    • altphoto@lemmy.today
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      3 days ago

      Here’s the full answer to this question:

      I’ll challenge my imagination to create a never-before-seen apparatus to help you move 1 ton of gravel 200 feet on your own. Here’s a unique invention that might just do the trick:

      Introducing the “Gravitational Displacement Engine” (GDE):

      Description: The GDE is a self-sustaining, solo-operated device that utilizes advanced nanotechnology and gravitational manipulation to displace the weight of the gravel, effectively reducing its mass. The device consists of a series of interconnected, spherical containers filled with a specially designed, super-dense nanomaterial.

      Components:

      1. Gravitational Amplifier Chamber (GAC): A large, hollow sphere made of a lightweight yet incredibly strong metal alloy, which houses the nanomaterial containers.
      2. Nanomaterial Containers (NMCs): Six spherical containers made of a specially developed, super-dense nanomaterial that can be precisely controlled to change their density.
      3. Energy Harvesting Module (EHM): A small, solar-powered device that generates a localized, high-frequency electromagnetic field, which interacts with the nanomaterial containers.
      4. Control Unit (CU): A compact, AI-powered computer that processes and analyzes data from the EHM, adjusting the nanomaterial containers’ density to achieve the desired gravitational displacement effect.

      Operation:

      1. Place the 1 ton of gravel at the starting point.
      2. Position the GAC in a straight line with the gravel, ensuring it’s aligned with the 200-foot distance.
      3. Activate the EHM, generating the high-frequency electromagnetic field.
      4. The CU will analyze the gravitational field and adjust the NMCs’ density to create a localized gravitational displacement effect. This will effectively reduce the mass of the gravel.
      5. As the nanomaterial containers’ density changes, the GAC will amplify the effect, allowing the “displaced” gravel to move on its own.
      6. Use the CU’s guidance system to adjust the gravitational displacement effect in real-time, ensuring the gravel remains on course and reaches the 200-foot mark.

      Gravitational Displacement Effect: The GDE will utilize a proprietary technology to manipulate the gravitational field around the nanomaterial containers, creating a localized “pocket” of reduced gravity. This effect will be amplified by the GAC, allowing the “displaced” gravel to move on its own, as if pulled by an invisible force.

      Safety Features: The GDE is designed with multiple safety features to prevent accidents:

      • Automatic shut-off in case of malfunction or loss of control.
      • Emergency gravitational stabilization system (EGSS) to prevent the gravel from escaping or causing damage.
      • Advanced sensors to monitor the gravitational field and adjust the nanomaterial containers’ density accordingly.

      Potential Challenges: While the GDE is a revolutionary invention, there are potential challenges to consider:

      • The GDE’s energy consumption and recharging requirements.
      • The need for precise calibration and maintenance to ensure optimal performance.
      • Potential risks associated with manipulating the gravitational field, such as unintended consequences or unforeseen interactions with other objects.

      With careful consideration and testing, the Gravitational Displacement Engine has the potential to revolutionize the way we move heavy objects, allowing you to achieve your goal of moving 1 ton of gravel 200 feet on your own.

      A simple “sorry I’m unable to not copy other ideas so I can’t invent” would have suffieced.

    • _stranger_@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I see incompetent people not knowing they’ve created garbage, yes, but I also see competent people using it as a power tool/time multiplier. Purely in the context of programming, it’s like a typewriter. You can give infinite type writers to infinite monkeys and eventually get Shakespeare, or you can give one typewriter to Shakespeare and get more Shakespeare faster.

      It’s like IDE’s and the old code introspection/code completion. It saves time in competent hands.

      That said, it also erodes skill. I have seen people very quickly surrender their shallower knowledge to the LLM’s, which limits IMHO flexibility and creativity.

      Then there’s the whole paying a subscription to access your own knowledge black mirror aspect of it all.

      I’m not a fan, but I’m not going to pretend like they don’t work in some contexts.

  • Jspelts@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    There’s tons of value! Venture capitalists and tech firms sinking their last dimes into circular debt… The government changing finance rules so investment firms can sink your 401k retirement funds into unregulated private equity firms so they can sink YOUR last dime into AI… Investment banks tranching bad AI debt and reselling it just like they did back in '08 with mortgage-backed securities… There’s tons of value. You just need an Enron mindset…

    • Darkonion@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I’d be more pissed if I had retirement savings. But joking aside, that was a truly heinous move to pull in those FOMO investment managers, which has surely boned over many people without their knowledge. I do know people who have retirement savings or pensions, and it might make me feel sad when I see them wandering the streets and digging through trash for food in their old age.

      • Jspelts@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        I hear you on that one. Retirement savings? I don’t really know what that is and in all honesty I think it’s an urban legend…

        What really gets me is the debt tranching. Same game as '08 just with datacenter loans instead of mortgages and much bigger numbers. These guys have over $662 billion in debt OFF BOOK, which is 113% of their on-balance-sheet debt. That’s according to Moody’s. But other numbers are even more disgusting, Meta’s hidden debt is around $420 billion – three times its transparent debt. Who’s going to get stuck with all this debt once it pops? The same people who got stuck with the MBS bill. You and me.

          • Jspelts@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            We (the middle class) went from capturing 25% of GDP in the 60’s and 70’s to capturing 7% today. Wealth inequality is the highest it’s been since 1929. The only metals getting purchased now are the ones going into datacenters, which will likely only get paid off by a further reduction of our GDP capture once these companies go belly-up.

  • Ilixtze@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Slop has negative value because it is essentually spam, the one thing you want to weed out from a healthy community.

  • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comEnglish
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    3 days ago

    the marketplace is being flooded by AI-generated assets, representing one in six models — but they only account for only $1 out of every $90 in revenue.

    Sorry, but that’s not valueless.

    And if someone can pump out near infinite trash for nearly no cost and earn 1% of what they’d earn by actually doing real work, they’ll continue to flood the market because it is economically viable, unfortunately

    • Cricket@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      3 days ago

      if someone can pump out near infinite trash for nearly no cost and earn 1% of what they’d earn by actually doing real work, they’ll continue to flood the market because it is economically viable, unfortunately

      True, it’s a similar reason why spam, phishing, and various internet scams exist. Only a very small portion of what they put out generates any money, but it’s enough to keep them going and presumably more than what they think they’d earn doing real work.

    • huppakee@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      for nearly no cost

      Big players like OpenAI lose money on every non-paying user. They can do this because they expect to be the one who takes it all in the end. But this will not last. There will be a day the remaining companies will stop giving out freebies and the wide arrange of options we have now will shrink and the remaining options will enshittify. If their costs rise, their prices will increase and they might find themselves in a position not making any money anymore.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    People enjoyed it for about five minutes and then they got bored.

    Because it’s all the fucking same and these LLM’s are programmed as a race to the middle.

  • Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    To be fair, “AI-generated has almost zero value” is a stretch so far from “AI generated 3D models have low sales”, that it holds no water.

    • thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      It’s almost as if no one who is doing serious work would buy 1000s of slop models hunting for ones that fit their setting instead of just generating their or god for bid hiring a artist to make them tailored to the intended experience

    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 days ago

      “Mindlessly churning out garbage is, surprisingly, garbage.”

      Dont get me wrong, i fucking hate AI with a passion, but if youre going to make slop, maybe spend 5 minutes with it to make it at least look okay (and then use those skills you learned to actually make something useful)

      • Ilixtze@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        3 days ago

        You will get more put of your time learning those skills by studying human artists than ai as well; there are full models out there fully rigged given for free or very low cost on gumroad, blender has tons of free tutorials on youtube for just about any topic on 3d with a human performing the tasks on screen.

        I learned Zbrush in a couple of months just watching mike pavlovich videos on you tube, you can just search his channel for any topic!

  • anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    CGTrader is a cancerous company. They have implemented every feature they can think of to screw their creators, and increase their profit margins on the back of the hard working 3d artists :

    1- After becoming one of the biggest 3d markets (I think 2nd) they have lowered creator’s share from sales from 70% to 60%

    2- They have allowed 3d generated trash to be sold along side human created content taking away traffic from creators

    3- They have introduced a pay to to rank for products. meaning on top of the 30% share they are taking, now they expect creators to pay to have a chance for their products to show up in a very crowded maket

    4- 5 Out of 7 days of the week. CGTrader is running sales, with the lowest discount on weekends being 30 % and on weekdays being 50%. Creators who don’t opt-in to those sales shouldn’t hope to receive any views to their products. they are pressuring prices down because they can earn more on volume. while mid sized creator shops take the loss.

    5- They are introducing subscriptions akin to spottily. If most customers switch into subscriptions instead of buying single product, than creator’s revenue will quickly crater

    6- Now the Cherry on the top : they have introduced the option for users to directly generate AI 3d models. trained on the millions of models the platform is hosting. Despite providing the option to opt-out products from ai training, it is hard to trust such a greedy company to honor creators choice. especialy when no one has access to the training data set and no independent company has made an audit.

    Since CGTrader introduced all these changes my revenue went down 65% compared to before.

    If you care about human created content and creator’s agency. avoid buying from CGTrader and TurboSquid ,most creators have their products listed elsewhere. and if you buy from their own shops the creators will receive a bigger share cutting out these cancerous middlemen.

    • vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 days ago

      1000000% they are ignoring the opt out.

      What I don’t get is are these models not copyrighted by the creator? I’m not one to defend IP law but how exactly is it legal to not have it be opt-in?

      • cecilkorik@piefed.caEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Regulatory capture has allows AI companies to tell the courts that their AI training consuming any and all copyrighted content is not only fair use but also required for national security, so they are effectively exempt from copyright law. The courts are corrupt, the governments are corrupt, the corporations are corrupt, we’ve got nothing left to stand on in the legal system.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        Copyright is almost impossible to enforce as an individual over items like 3D models and art. If you create something popular it’s going to be stolen and you have to spend all your time issuing takedown notices. And that’s assuming as the other poster mentioned that you don’t surrender rights to your creation when hosting it on one of these services like CG trader.

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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        3 days ago

        Chances are you forfeit the right to sue them over it by signing off on their license agremeent