• adm@lemm.ee
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    Let’s not pretend that we don’t have this type of thing happen to us. Maybe not beauty products but any time I slip outside of my ad blockers I’m made accurately aware that they’re always listening. It’s not a coincidence the ads you see, the TikToks, and the Facebook ads. It’s just used for adds right now but it should scare the shit out of people.

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    If any of the big companies were turned into a human, they would all be Epstein

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      It’s mot that we hate teenage girls (and women) so much. It’s just money. Soulless, apathetic money making.

      A teenager is in a vulnerable state. Some more than others. But self esteem, self worth, and existentialism are things that a teenager as, at the very least, a brush with.

      An emotionally vulnerable person is more open to suggestion. Religion does this a lot. Advertising is no different.

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      We don’t hate them, it’s just that capitalism has found them to be an easy and vulnerable target for manipulation.

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        I agree.

        I feel like the powers that b have people working overtime to ensure that most Western women feel like they need to consume to be accepted by their peers.

        What’s particularly sad is it’s the exact opposite. That culture of consumption also comes with an aura of exclusivity. Most of these girls are miserable because they’ve been conditioned to consume as much as possible while thinking anyone who consumes less isn’t good enough for them.

        It’s really good for putting them to work, not so good for making them or the people around them happy.

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        And I genuinely loved all that stuff as a kid, usually liking the ad (e.g., TMNT cartoon) more than the toys (e.g., TMNT action figures).

        As your typical Lemmy user who loves Linux and hates advertisements, I sometimes have to remind myself about that when my son is watching today’s dumb kid shows. Teaching him about the systems in play rather than isolating him from it has been working well IMO.

        The bonus is that he doesn’t watch full-on advertisements and commercial breaks like we were forced to in the 80s when it was live TV or no TV.

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          The bonus is that he doesn’t watch full-on advertisements and commercial breaks like we were forced to in the 80s when it was live TV or no TV.

          I think the problem for modern youth is that there’s no way to tell what’s an ad anymore. Scrolling through TikTok or any social media will show you tons of advertisements which are not marked as advertisements.

          The mainstream internet is driven by advertising. At least when I was a kid we could step out during the commercial breaks.

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            I think the problem for modern youth is that there’s no way to tell what’s an ad anymore.

            Too true. Fortunately my kid is too young for full blown social media, so I have a few more years to keep teaching him.

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          It’s the state of advertising tbh. If ads were still of the “Look, here’s a cool product” variety, or even the “Look, here’s people happily using a cool product” kind then the world would probably be a better place. Even targeting isn’t so bad, when it’s broad like “We want businesses to know about our B2B product.”

          The evil in modern advertising is the overly specific targeting, the lying, the psychological tricks, and the way they seem to invade every possible space.

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          For anyone that is downvoting this. Go ahead and try to run a business without advertising, let me know how that works out for you.

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          This is one of those bizarre Lemmy echo chamber things. I’ve never seen this sentiment that advertising is evil and should be stopped at all costs anywhere else but on Lemmy it’s super common. Idk where it comes from. I get that advertising kind of sucks but it just seems like a weird thing to get so passionate about especially considering how many other things are wrong with the world. Sorry you’re getting downvoted to hell, you’re not crazy, Lemmy is.

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            That famous Bansky quote is older than Lemmy and is posted all over the Internet. There are cities around that ban all advertisements. There are movements for a ban on ads in public spaces in many cities all around the world. That really has nothing to do with Lemmy

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            This has been a huge public viewpoint for decades. I think it was Banksy who had the quote about if you force me to view your ad by putting it in a public space then it is mine to do with a I please.

            Businesses have to survive, but advertising is insidious and invasive. Could it be regulated? Sure.

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            I know one example of advertising that I liked: the creators of Penny Arcade had only advertisements for computer games that they liked. And they made those ads in the same art style as their own comic.

            Advertisements are good when they’re an honest endorsement. Any others are inherently deceptive and often invasive.

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            Some level of advertising is a necessary evil when you’re in a capitalist system because otherwise people have no way to get their products out ti the market. There’s a balance to be struck.

            Hell even in other systems advertising is still important for finding out about cool new things even if money no longer exists

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          They can put up signs inside their business windows. That’s plenty. Everything else is a blight.

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              Oh they had roadside billboards in 1950. And they were a blight back then. Advertising is a cancer.

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                  Haha what? Advertising is a distributed global brainwashing campaign, by the wealthy, against the working class. They don’t hire psychologists to exploit our lizard brains for no reason, and that’s why it needs to be outlawed.

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    can’t believe a social network started by incels in college to rate girls sexually would do something like this.

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    lol, Jesus. It is like what a screen writer would come up with for a movie that contained a terrible company run by terrible people doing stuff so outlandishly terrible everyone watching would think “the absurdity of the terrible is how you know it is made up”.

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    That’s 0% surprising. FB had always been about making girls feel bad. It’s in its sorce code

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      Facebook started as a Hot or Not website. Fucking creepy.

      YouTube also started because the founders wanted to see the Janet Jackson nipple slip. (Which fuck them for that.)

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        Ya FB is,was and will forever be bad for society and woman especially

        I mean,do you really think janet jackson didn’t want people to see?

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          I mean,do you really think janet jackson didn’t want people to see?

          No, I don’t.

          It’s interesting how Justin Timberlake had a career after that incident; when was the last time anyone’s heard from Janet Jackson?

          I don’t see how this is different from revenge porn.

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        Ya FB is,was and will forever be bad for society and woman especially

        I mean,do you really think jackson didn’t want people to see