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    I’m not even talking about externalized environmental and social costs, but like, the basic cost per unit of building data centers and training models. Even after raising prices they’re still basically just burning investor cash, trying to reach escape velocity.

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      Yeah, everyone on the AI-train doesn’t realize if they gain a dependency on AI from using a particularly model, the price of that model will just go up every year.

      Enshittification is as predictable as gravity. These people are mentally no different than flat earthers.

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        And as DeepSeek showed, it isn’t that hard to distill the great large AI model into something smaller that isn’t controlled by a large AI company, making owning the compute made to build the model worthless.

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          Yeah, I’m really wondering what the investment bankers are thinking on this. Everything they do is replicable.

          If the rent gets too high, people will switch to cheaper models even if they’re marginally less effective. And once a business starts running its own AI models on its own hardware, they’re definitely not going to switch to a more expensive subscription.

          There will never be an AI monopoly that will make back all the money they are burning trying to make a monopoly. I honestly don’t get it it at all. I feel like the world has gone mad.

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            They don’t think, thats the problem and why we are here.

            Or they are thinking really really hard and this is like many of the other articially juiced finical situations that let them rape and pillage the pockets of the average American. Just like how George sorros can flood currency values to control a market and profit off of the demise of others, I like to think every single financial crises going back 50+ years has been some kind of swindle that only the rich with enough money can benifit from.

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              I was just reading a summary from a book published in 2016 that talks about this:

              Chapter 2, “Why the Technological System Will Destroy Itself”, develops the author’s theory of “self-propagating systems”—systems that compete against each other for power without any regard for the long-term consequences, since any self-propagating systems that take the long-term into account will lose their competitive edge and be out-competed by self-propagating systems that do not. Kaczynski ultimately argues that since the technological system itself is a self-propagating system composed of self-propagating subsystems that competes for power in the short-term without regard for the long-term negative consequences, that the logical conclusion of the continued growth of the technological system is the complete destruction of the biosphere, wiping out all complex lifeforms.