• vrek@programming.dev
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    7 天前

    Really? No! That’s Llms, For those I agree. Ai has been around for decades,technically the goombas in the original super Mario bros on the ones were Ai. They had a set of inputs and based off those inputs changed their next action. Look at video games from the 90s, often it was “player vs Ai” and yes they were marked and called Ai in alot of cases.

    This is what I meant by the last paragraph. Llm should never be acceptable for flight control. As you correctly stated it is not deterministic but that’s not all “Ai”. If the faa comes out and said they are using Claude code to handle this they should be fired and project wiped. Tracking locations of objects and detecting if a collision will happen between 2 objects has been effectively solved for decades so this could be a good use case. We don’t know what they are using Ai for or what kind of Ai it is.

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      7 天前

      I’m not going to convince you. Read some papers by yourself. Maybe check Nielsen’s website if you want to learn a bit.

      These people obviously are not implying to incorporate “Mario Bros” to control towers. They are talking about modern AI.

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        7 天前

        I get what you are saying. My point is there are many types of Ai. We don’t know which they are going to use since they just said Ai which such an overused and overloaded verb we can’t tell what they mean. You are assuming llm, which would be stupid, wasteful and likely dangerous. But not all Ai is llm.

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          6 天前

          not all Ai is llm.

          In the modern context where this is happening, it is. Would it be clearer if they said “LLM” explicitly? Yes. But that’s what is meant, they don’t mean one of the previous definitions of “AI”

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            6 天前

            Is it? How do you know? Let’s just say you are right? How would that work? Have a person type in “I’m at Seattle airport, I have a plane looking to land from Arizona, they are 18 miles out and 2500 feet high, which runway should they use?”

            That takes longer to type not even including calculation time. There is literally no benefit.

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              6 天前

              Well, yeah. Obviously there’s no benefit, that’s why this is a fucking stupid idea which will kill people if implemented

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                6 天前

                They get a digital signal from sensors, they need a digital output to determine if a plane is clear to land. Why do they want to incorporate human language at all? My guess, they are using the term Ai for pr reasons. Get signal from plane, determine best runway based on other plane locations, output result to screen. Technically marketing/pr can use the term Ai, easier and safer for everyone plus cheaper and better for environment and they can still jump on the hype train.

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          6 天前

          The fact that you say that I am assuming LLMs tells me you don’t understand what you are talking about.

          No shame on not knowing. But some shame on having an strong opinion on something that you don’t know.

          (btw, I have a phd in CS)

          • vrek@programming.dev
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            5 天前

            I don’t have strong opinion. My whole point was that Ai is a buzzword with many possible meanings and it’s use was likely pushed by the or department. Before we form strong opinions let’s get details on what they will be using and how