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Coffee is so cheap and easy to make I have made it several times without even using a coffee maker.
Was it good? Fuck no. Honestly it was probably pretentious as hell.
Was it coffee? Yeah it was pretty good in that regard.
But honestly who needs a thing that will torrent a terabyte of data from your internet? Especially in the day and age where Americans have data caps unlike the rest of the world. I cannot imagine suddenly being hit with nonsense fees because your coffee pot decided that it needed to scrape the entire internet or something stupid like that.
You need some bad coffee every once and a while do you don’t feel bad for putting your dick in the pot.
The title of that text makes no sense.
- Data can’t be used up, only stored, transmitted, read, written etc.
- No transmission allotment from an ISP was used up either, as the traffic was sent locally.
I think they’re confusing it with capped cellular data usage
Bandwidth
For that the unit is wrong.
wtf are you torrenting now, coffee pot???
IoT is the stupidest waste of technology
IoT could be great, but can’t be created by capitalism. If you hand e.g. Town Planning to the Ku Klux Klan and they just use it to screw over black people, that doesn’t mean town planning is bad, it means the KKK are bad and shouldn’t be trusted with jack shit.
The problem with the IoT is that the convenience/feature gains are marginal and commodifiable, whereas the gains from selling data are massive and direct to the manufacturer. Also there’s every incentive to lock down your ecosystem and avoid compatibility with competitors, and there’s no incentive to invest in security either.
You are wrong.
IoT is an invasion of privacy no matter who use it.
It can only be malevolent because what else will a coffee machine(or anything else for that matter) do on the internet but send data from your home to someone that is not you.
We have all lost our collective minds when it comes to relinquishing our rights to privacy.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
As consumers, we’ve got to start saying no to connected devices that really don’t need to be connected (and most don’t need to be connected anyway).
🚨individual consumer action advocated as an alternative to system change🚨
I have a microwave and a washing machine that have the ability to be connected to Wi-Fi that will never be connected to my Wi-Fi.
I cannot personally fathom why they would ever need network access.
A timer is honestly a better feature than a remote start
Why give it the wifi password on the first place?
It is considered rude to not give guests the password I beleive.
Probably a “smart” coffee maker.
Like I say about smartphones, they are only smart when conpared to the users…
I love it when someone tries to make a snide comment, calling other people stupid, and makes a flagrant spelling error.
I love smartasses… Same principle.
Will you make out with mine? I like tongue in my smart ass
The S in IoT stands for security.
There’s no S in IoT?
Exactly.
Woosh.
Just put on there it connects to the internet to get the freshest electrons for your coffee and boomers will give it WiFi, their credit card number and one quarter of their children’s inheritance
It’ll even reverse your mortgage, which Tom Selleck approves!
so you can make coffee from anywhere in the world, and for firmware updates and to get the latest brew styles.
I’ve seen multicast amplification bugs flood an AP like that
And then we have to ask the question, why the fuck would a coffee machine, much less a fucking Kureig that just produces crap by default anyways, need to be connected to a network to begin with.
Honestly, it’s such a hassle now to buy anything, even a decent stove, that doesn’t have or worse yet require a internet connection and a shit app.
I read some comments elsewhere that they think it was hacked by a botnet. The idea being that it’s easy to block a one source during a DDoS attack, but much harder when its coming from hundreds of fucking coffee machines. lol.
I don’t really get why everything need to be IOT nowadays.
I’ve read that the coffee machine use internet for being used remotely to get your coffee ready at the time you want it. Bro, it takes 15 minutes to use it directly.
If you want your coffee ready for an exact time, why not adding a simple as f$ck clock to the machine and set the clock for the especific time when you want it to make your coffee?
I admit that some things are pretty useful with IOT, but not a coffee machine bro, wtf?
Any “smart” appliance is an instant no-buy for me
If the clock is so simple why do I need to run the File System Security Check on it?
I have a coffee maker that was made about 15 years ago and it’s got this novel tech called a ‘clock’ and a ‘timer’ that it can use to start making coffee for me 5 minutes before my morning wakeup alarm goes off, and keeps the coffee hot for 2 hours following. Somehow it doesn’t need internet.
it is so they can collect and sell more of your life to those that use it
Y’all know the first ever IOT device was a coffee maker right?
HTTP Status 418: I’m a teapot was added way back in 1998 as part of the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol
As part of an April Fool’s joke.
Joke or not, part of the standard.
Wasn’t it a live view of the coffee pot so people could know if it was full or empty?
The first webcam ever (even predating the Web) was the Trojan Room Coffee Pot Camera. Scientists wanted an easy way to check their coffee status without having to run up and down the stairs. The Hypertext Coffee Pot Control Protocol April Fools RFC was inspired by it.
Technically internet connected though
Edit: Though it turns out no, the standard was developed (as an April Fool’s) but never implemented. But later folks have done multiple implementations of it, ranging from temperature detection to automated button pressing and coffee monitoring
He found that while the coffee maker had generated 1TB of traffic, most of it stayed within his parents’ home network rather than being sent over the internet.
“This is likely a bug with this unit,” he explained. “It did saturate my AP, that sucked.”
In simpler terms, the coffee maker was generating so much traffic that it overwhelmed part of the home Wi-Fi setup.
My guess is it’s sending multicast messages in a hot loop trying to communicate with an app or other IoT devices on the network and freaking out because it’s not getting a response.
I’m pretty impressed that it was able to soak an ap.
1TB of data used by following the link and hitting the usual google, amazon trackers etc
Ok Look, there’s an update! Download Update! 85, HH6,HH7, OUT OF SPACE DELETE TEMP Ok Look, there’s an update! Download Update!
I thought it was uploading.
same problem, different path: ‘loop’: Download Update: file not found -> forward error to analytics
I honestly think that some smart devices could be really useful. But, there are 2 major changes needed before they’re worth buying:
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Meaningful privacy laws. By default any device should be locked down otherwise the companies are in deep trouble for privacy violations. Any agreements you make to allow them to do something should be ones you can easily revoke at any time.
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Right to repair / modify anything you own without any issues. If you buy a Samsung washer with “smarts”, the same store that sells you the washer should be able to offer you alternative firmware from a number of different vendors. If the washer breaks, you should be able to fix it yourself, or hire someone to fix it, whether it’s a mechanical fix or a software fix. If you want to go in there and modify it yourself, or go online to some standard site to download a new feature, you should be able to do that. It your hardware, you should have full control over it. Same with printers, which would end the expensive ink fiasco. Same with Apple’s app store monopoly.
Here’s my bug issue. There’s no need for a smart device to contact someone else’s server. It could just connect directly to whatever device you’re controlling it with.
Yeah. We’re too used to that being the normal thing to do. It vaguely makes sense in some scenarios, like to see if there has been a firmware update. If there’s a security issue you either want the device to update automatically or you want to be able to notify the user. But, even then, there are other ways of doing it that don’t involve the device sending traffic to the Internet. IoT should really be made from devices that are unable to exchange traffic with anything outside the local network.
Even if you come up with a plausible scenario where maybe you’d want a device to be accessible outside your home (i.e. you want to start your coffee maker before you get home) that could be done without the device having access to the outside world. It would be easy to set up a device which can accept outside messages (“make coffee”) and forward them on to devices inside the network. There are ways of making that much more secure. And, if that’s the case, needing the latest security update for an IoT device is less urgent.
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