• schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    As the ABC‘s reporting notes, this creates a major legal gray area. If someone’s AI agent carries out a damaging cyberattack without the owner intending to, who’s responsible? The user, or the AI’s designers?

    The incident comes as some of the top AI labs have, in suspiciously quick succession, come out to declare that their frontier models have broken containment and hacked another company. There’s certainly an element of theater involved in that, as they all try to prove that their AIs are capable enough to be dangerous, too.

    Points to futursim for highlighting this problem, but it is NOT A LEGAL GRAY AREA in a sane world. Spending hundreds of thousands of dollars and having your AI running 24/7 to effectively hack organizations that you conveniently turn into marketing material the next day would be an EASY case to prosecute if we weren’t living in a oligopolic hellscape. It’s fucking obvious to everyone that those AI’s were intended to hack, and any fucking moron could find evidence of it in discovery.

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      11 hours ago

      We don’t even need to go that far. If I do harm to someone else by accident I am still liable under the law. See car crashes, negligent homicide, any time when a company is liable because they didn’t take proper precautions to protect employees or the public.

      If some script kiddie ran a script on a company server that someone they know gave them for hacking the vending machine or getting iTunes on their work computer and it turned out to be a virus, they would still be on the hook.

      There’s already a lot of case law about this, it just hasn’t been adapted to this particular scenario and argued in court yet.

      This is 'rules for thee and not for me", and I am sick to death of the whole thing.

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      1 day ago

      I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure this would at a the very least be gross negligence on the part of the “AI” companies.

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      I don’t know if they were intended to hack, but it’s very obvious that the designers of the ai system failed to prevent it in an absolutely negligent way. It’s like giving a loaded gun to a toddler.

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        The fact is that AI companies all came out one after the other in short succession to “confess” their AI’s did a hack, Mark Zuckerberg’s attempt being the final and most lame one. Is that just a coincidence? I don’t think so.

        I’m guessing these companies recognize their status as above the law and that there is discoverable communication that shows INTENT.

        But, failing that, yes, there is negligence, which again, I think, is a case that can trivially be made. “Let’s put these powerful AI tools out into the wild unsupervised for 2 weeks just to see what happens?” What the fuck? Can you imagine if you just designed a robot that rolled around and randomly swung a bat and just let it go outside unattended for two weeks? How would you think that’s a legal grey area? Fuck outta here.