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In an effort to stem the bleeding from the backlash about their AI usage and their CEO’s meltdown, they decide to do the exact opposite and go all in.
…I’m tired, boss.
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This is not the death of expertise. The LLM is fast. You are slow, but you carry with you a lifetime of experience, judgment calls, and understanding. You are also (hopefully) much less prone to hallucination and being mislead by bad or malicious inputs, and are accountable to yourself, your teammates, and to Proton in a way a model can never be. Together you can do far more, far faster than either can do alone.
Just one teeny tiny question, sir. Who tf is going to train your “IA” if no one learns to code because “IA” does “everything by itself”?
Fine, you want to go only by seniors who already knows how to write good code, cut the juniors. Then what? Just hope that “IA” is smart enough (spoiler: it won’t) to never need any kind of correction or fixing? And just for what? Going “faster”?
You can always go fast, but you really shouldn’t. Unless you want to crash faster I guess.
If you’re looking for an email service that isn’t written with AI, I made one:
“AI needs to be able to work autonomously and continuously with less and less human babysitting. Your job is to identify problems that the LLM cannot solve on its own and help them not only solve them this time but be able to better solve them next time, not just for you but for everyone: repository-level context files, shared skills and prompts, and habit of ensuring that repeated failures trigger an investigation and a fix. Your job is to push the limits of what the LLM can do autonomously, step in for the things that it cannot, and always think of how you can improve the status quo.”
Forgot to add “so that we can fire you in a couple of years.” to the end.
CTO too.
Well, they just have AI Psychosis. Seems like a straightforward case.
Okay, so who has unlimited custom domain email aliases other than Proton? Having recently just set up a hundred or more of these suckers I’d have need of taking them with me.
I’ve been with Fastmail for a while and they seem decent. They also have unlimited aliases. They have a catch all alias ability too
Time to de-proton
Soo stupid, their business model is reliant on people that move out of a free service based on principle.
The real tell here is when Yen berated an engineer who voiced concerns about security, saying “stop finding ways to be slow, start finding ways to be faster”. He’s a C-suite baby who wants what he wants RIGHT NOW!
When the suits start acting like engineers who care about best practices are being obstacles instead of valuable stewards of quality, you know you’re dealing with losers who can’t be trusted to not run things into the ground. Any walking back that Yen does now, you know he’s just biding his time to ride out the kerfuffle, and he’s just going to low-key abuse his employees at a slightly slower pace, but he’s going to get what he wants.
Canceled my sub, moved my mail.
I may have to migrate too. I’m cautious with leaving proton, but they have had plenty of time to muzzle this guy and they haven’t so it’s time to move on. I own my domain and and the aliases will all follow me either way, though that’s going to be an absolute bear to migrate.
This. Although not enthused with the all in use of AI tools, I dont have a problem with it being used to generate code. So long as a human is responsible for the PRs that go into the project. The bigger issue is the push around sacrificing proper security posture and process. As I’ve said else where, for a company that sold me and many based on their security and privacy stance, its an odd position to take, and probably why I will be moving on closer to my subscription end
I genuinely wonder what these executives have in their mind.
What do they think? That engineers are good enough for being hired but not good enough to decide which tools to use?
If I hire a plumber and I tell them what tool to use, the plumber would either comply and do a bad job or will tell me to get lost.
Why do they think this is different?
Do some engineers like LLM? Sure! And let it be Do some engineers don’t like LLM? Yes… and let it be.
If these tools are so miraculous the engineers that use them will provide such good results that will naturally prevail.
Why the executives need to thumb the scale?
They’re thinking that the chatbots are just a few weeks away from making hiring people obsolete so they can finally get infinite money forever.
So, not thinking at all.
I highly suggest Thundermail (tb.pro) if you wanna switch to a libre email provider. Mozilla hosts stalwart and their own libre mail client for you, along with providing 15 mail aliases and 3 custom domains, for a small price. I have been using it as my daily since past few months. I haven’t found any bugs despite it being in beta.
More expensive per GB than Tuta.
At least for me, because I don’t send a lot of e-mail, I mostly receive it. So ~$3/mo for 20 GB vs $6/mo for 30 GB, easy decision for me.
Do they offer catch-alls too? And a plan for my 700+ aliases?
I had kept my mail account around just as an alternate for cutting down on spam to my main, but this was a good excuse to dump it. No need to enable the fash anymore.
The first is a change in engineering culture and engineer mentality. Your job has fundamentally changed. It is no longer to write code, and LLMs are not here to help you write better code faster. Your job is to help the LLM write better code faster.
Emphasis theirs 🤮
The dumb thing about that quote is that it doesn’t have to be an either/or situation. Engineers want to solve these problems by nature; if there were no voices from the top, we’d be getting AI to help us write better code, and trying to make AI write better code fast. For whatever reason the C-suites can’t just let things follow their natural course which would already result in wins for them, they have to spew the narrative that our jobs are completely changing so they can justify getting rid of them
good thing proton didnt look that good in the first place and i didnt switch to them
and their CEO’s meltdown, they decide to do the exact opposite and go all in.
I was INCHES away. They were going to be my de-google move. I had decided to pull the trigger but it was late and I know i would have been up all night dealing with it. I’d deal with it in the morning. A few more days slipped and he licked Trumps balls on twitter…
Whoopsies, not with someone elses’ 10 ft pole.
“Luckily I didn’t treat my cancer, turns out you get a cold after the treatment”
They are still better compared to google. Am I pissed? Of course, am I better off than 10 years ago when I had everything on google? Of course.
Will I be switching? Probably (never gave them a cent tho)
This is the same bullshit AI arms race mentality that my company spews to us and every loser company takes up. Every company feels like they need to get faster. None do. Shockingly everyone still releases at the same pace. And even then no value gets added as 80% of the features are either dark patterns or garbage.
As a consumer you’ll never see the benefits of any of this madness. I certainly haven’t. It’s NFTs all over again where people insist I need a clumsy chatbot for reasons.
As an engineer my current reality of babysitting multiple LLM threads and acting as a go between between the llm i spun up and the llm reviewing the code is demoralizing. There’s no thought in this 80% of the time. The most challenging part is finding a way to keep up tech skills and make new ones when everyone has abandoned them.
What’s missing in a lot of these is that the executive ‘leadership’ emphasizes some abstract need to do faster, but never concretely what it is that they need to see done faster. Even worse they go to their customer base bragging about stuff the customer shouldn’t care about one way or another if it works: we are going to vibe code the software you get! Ok, but what do I get because of your shift to vibe coding that I didn’t have before? What is it that you actually are looking for me to buy?
They have zero vision and instead just signal affinity to AI thinking “job done” without ever actually having some concrete value based goal in mind.
When folks executing toward no particular goal fail to reach any particular goal, the response is to get more opinionated on how to do things and how the employees are obviously not doing things ight since they haven’t hit objectives and never actually circling back to actually defining objectives.
I was hoping for a resignation… now I have to migrate again which is annoying but “c’est la vie.”
Buy a domain, have your email address be tied to that domain and set it so the DNS record redirects to the email provider of your choice.
You can now swap email providers without having to change your email address.
is it really this easy?? how is this not a widespread thing?
Been doing it for nearly two decades. Yes, it really is that easy
