• quarkquasar@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    The last decade or two proved all the “crazy” people of the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s correct.

    There was, in fact, a shadow cabal of pedophiles attempting to take control of the US government.

    They’re now in power, and there isn’t much we can do now but hope they get bored of it, because America has shown there isn’t much we won’t forgive, as long as you give a wink and a nod to the racists.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      9 hours ago

      No, and by saying that you’re giving credence to crazy conspiracy theories instead of what actually happened.

      There’s no “cabal”. There are people trying to amass power and get the government to change in ways that benefits them, but they’re hardly acting in secret. Elon Musk got up on stage and did a Nazi salute! Other people like Timothy Mellon, the Adelsons, the Uihleins, etc. are openly funding political groups. They’re so open about it that they are happy to sit for an interview and tell you exactly why the world should be the way they’re trying to make it.

      In addition, there isn’t even a conspiracy. Not only are they not acting secretly in the shadows, they can’t even agree on anything but a few basics like cut taxes for the rich and lower benefits for the rest. They fight about almost everything else. The ones who own businesses that are based on intellectual property want LLMs to have to license everything they ingest. The ones who are rich from the AI grift want the opposite. The ones who are rich from fossil fuels want alternative energy slowed and banned to keep energy prices high. The ones who run AI companies want their energy to be as cheap as possible.

      As for their being pedophiles, maybe some of them were or are. Many aren’t. Epstein got ultra rich by being the guy who could introduce people to other people. Most of them weren’t pedophiles, but they were willing to not look too closely at Epstein’s “girls” because he was useful to them and they didn’t want to make him an enemy.

      I’m generally fine with the ultra-rich being called the Epstein class, and being connected with pedophelia. For some reason, people didn’t hate these people for merely being ultra rich and using that wealth to warp the justice system and the government. If believing they’re pedophiles changes things, well at least they hate them, even if it’s based on a silly conspiracy.

      In any case, these people have always been in power. The US founding fathers were rich 20 year olds who owned a lot of land (and most of them owned slaves). In other words, the US was founded by oligarchs. They’ve been the ones with most of the power since the beginning. It’s not like there was some coup under Trump. It’s just that some of them are expressing their power more openly rather than using it behind the scenes so that the democratic system seemed more honest to the average voter.

    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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      15 hours ago

      There was a Robert Redford movie from the 70s, can’t remember the title, but it was a convoluted spy thriller with a line like, “It’s the oil companies! Of course! Why didn’t I see it!”

      We’ve been sleeping-walking into oligarchic fascism for decades.

    • mrbutterscotch@feddit.org
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      15 hours ago

      The problem being that a lot of those “crazy” people that spoke about an evil cabal are the ones supporting it now and somehow don’t see it.