• megrania@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 days ago

    People tend to claim that, but I disagree … once you try your hand at action painting or other styles of abstract expressionism, you’ll notice that it by no means “easy” … sure, it’s not the same thing as painting like Bob Ross or the painters of the olden days, but to create a lively, polyfocal surface that’s not just a gray, nondescript mess, is a skill of it’s own.

    It’s not random noise (and I’d say if you think it is you need to train your senses better) … if you’ve actually seen a Pollock “in the canvas”, there’s so many tiny little structures and details to discover, there’s typically a balance of colors, structures, and densities. Fairly complex paintings, phenomenologically speaking.

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      3 days ago

      I’m a terrible visual artist, have always been better at audio. But I can see what you mean seeing a painting on canvas is a lot different. I just dont get much emotion from visual art anyway and everyone is always trying to pin meaning to things when it isnt there.

      Its kind of like how people freak out about how deep some lyrics of a song are and then when the writer is interviewed they say “what, that? That was gibberish I made up when I was high”. I can see where the parallels are here.

      Just like if you showed a painting at an exhibit and went on about how “deep” it is and how much meaning it has and get a crowd of people nodding their heads, then afterwards you say it was bot slop. A lot of “art” is in peoples heads.

      Unfortunately, in the future its not going to matter if its bot or human, people like what is good to them. Same reason kids love bot slop “music” now. they dont care about music, they just hear what sounds good to them.

      Its a sad future, but its absolutely inevitable. We will be the .000000001% hanging on to any human art and we will all probably be tricked by bot art masquerading as human anyway becuase it will be undetectable. Or we can just only experience pre 2016 media forever, which was largely better anyways.

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        3 days ago

        But I can see what you mean seeing a painting on canvas is a lot different

        This was an interesting discussion I had with my family when we went to the Uffizi Gallery. I wanted to see the brush strokes, to feel something, but some of my family members were very focused on checking the check boxes of “yup I saw that” so seeing the birth of Venus from across the room peering over a hundred heads and struggling to see any more detail from being the centimeter thick glass than I would from a high quality scan on my computer was hardly memorable, but finding a small piece that spoke to me in a side gallery that only a couple of other people walked into was absolutely mesmerizing. I couldn’t tell you the name of the piece or the artist without looking it up, but I can tell you that was a magical feeling.

        Some of my family members saw the entire galleries we went into, I only saw a subset because I took the time to look at what spoke to me, and honestly I liked that far better than sprinting past paintings and sculptures just to “see” everything

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          Many many many people are only surface level. They take 0 time to appreciate things. Hence why catchy 3 chord formulaic 3 minute pop songs reign supreme and anything with an intro of more than 15 seconds gets shunned.

          Pretty sure I just care more because I’m austistic as fuck. Like all lemmings.

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        Its kind of like how people freak out about how deep some lyrics of a song are and then when the writer is interviewed they say “what, that? That was gibberish I made up when I was high”. I can see where the parallels are here.

        my most popular song is about a coin-operated shower that ran out of hot water. i’ve been told it’s about breakups, religion, sex, a few other things i can’t remember right now, but nope! it’s about being unexpectedly cold