Checked them out. Calling them metal is very generous.
Can’t you see, you’re not making Christianity better, you’re just making metal worse.
Being Christian in a field dominated by secular faux-Satanists is so metal that it wraps back around the other side and just becomes lame again.
Publicity stunt. The home schooled red state Skeeters who are this band’s fan base will flood GoFundMe with their beer money.
Conservatism. Grifting grifters grifting grifting grifters.
It’s a grift grifting grift for grifting grifting grifts.
Give send go, gofundme is for take populists gsg is pretty specifically conservative.
mogged? is that what mogged means? i thought it involved the butt.
Oddly enough it was originally a millennial slang term from the aughts
The fuck were we meaning back then?
It’s a shortened version of AMOG (alpha male of group) from pickup artist communities, which unfortunately I think has filtered through to the youths of today via shitbag redpill influencers.
It certainly can
To prove their point, included in the filing is an email from a person who spent $500 on top-tier tickets to a Demon Hunter concert in Albany, thinking they were purchasing admission to a KPop Demon Hunters event for their children, aged five and six.
I kind of get it. It’s not like the movie has nothing to do with music.
Imagine spending $500 on something and not, idk looking at the fucking promo picture. Also, Demon Hunter is objectively better than Huntr/x.
I still can’t get over the fact that this shit-tier band even tries to sell $500 tickets!
Also, Demon Hunter is objectively better than Hunter/x
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Christian Metal band
I respect your opinion, but I doubt its accuracy.
This seems like a stretch. The MOVIE had a similar name to the BAND. Remember in 2013 when a movie came out literally called “Rush”? Geddy Lee didn’t take Ron Howard to court. Trademarks do not transcend all trades/media. Nintendo has a line of Demon Hunter games. D&D has a class Demon Hunter.
Using search results as the basis is borderline nonsense. Apply that logic to say, a disaster. “Ever since the town of Metallica exploded our search results are down, so we’re taking them to court!” Nonsense. How about science? “Since it was announced comet KMFDM, a name derived using some standard naming convention, was announced to be slamming into earth next year, our search results are way down!”. TRADEmark, not OWNTHEWORDSmark.
The KPop band is called HUNTR/X. If they had been called Demon Hunters then yeah, probably a case.
obligatory upvote for mentioning Rush, i.e. greatest F1 movie ever made
If you read the article, it’s NOT about the movie at all.
It’s about the fact that Netflix and AEG are running live concerts under the event name “Kpop Demon Hunters”. NOT the band HUNTR/X.
And the actual band Demon Hunter has evidence that people bought tickets to their show thinking it was the Netflix live show, then requested refunds because of the confusion
So… yeah they do have a case. The live shows are running under the name Demon Hunters, directly confusing people with the actual band Demon Hunter. Especially parents that aren’t really familiar with either, but just want to buy tickets for their kids. Which they say they have direct evidence of people buying tickets then requesting refunds because they were confused about the name.
Sorry, would it make you feel better if I explicitly add EVENT next to MOVIE? The EVENT is named after the MOVIE. Neither of which are the BAND. TRADEmark, not OWNTHEWORDSmark.
confusion is what trademark law is supposed to prevent. it applies here.
Aw did you get offended because you didn’t even bother to read the article?
The trademark applies to live music concerts using the name. Which is exactly what Netflix is violating.
Reading further into this, they arent suing over the music concert, “The metal band have asked the court to stop Netflix using the KPop Demon Hunters name for recorded music, live shows and merchandise, and to award unspecified damages.” (The linked article is a summary of the real article, and so is missing things.)
By adding recorded music and merchandise as a main basis for this lawsuit, over a year after the movie, recorded music, and merchandise was released, sold, and popularized (and before their newest album in September 2025) does make this seem more like a cash grab now. Had they done this maybe last year, closer towards when they released their album and started the tour of that album, I would be more sympathetic towards them, but it now feels like they rode the popularity of Kpop Demon Hunters and now want a second helping of cash.
And there are other bands that have similar issues. Slipknot (Mu Metal band) and Slipknot (country band), Travis (Scottish rock band) and Travis Scott (rapper), etc… yet they seem to survive just fine.
Sometimes you can just issue a lawsuit and collect on the nuisance value alone. Sort of a get-rich-quick secret of the pharaohs. If you have a lawyer in pocket and your time is less valuable than their money, filing in a friendly court with a plausible case can be worth five or six figures easy. The defense attorneys will cost more than that anyway.
For the next-level shit, go check out how the Westboro Baptist Church makes money. They effectively thrive on lawsuits by being as annoying as possible and then filing claims against anyone who takes a swing at them.
Awful lot of simping for big daddy Netflix in this thread. I’m disappointed in you, lemmy users.
Its either simp for Netflix or simp for a metal band that sings for a fake ghost daddy in the sky.
I am just eating popcorn and enjoying the show cause I give a shit about neither.
If you point at someone on a site like Lemmy and say “Christian”, you can gin up a lot of reflexive hate with a headline. “Christian Rock Band” is an even more target rich source of ire.
Calling these turds out for being dumbasses doesn’t mean we’re defending Netflix. Netflix sucks. These guys suck. What is happening to these guys is hardly the result of Netflix’s actions.
What I DO see a lot of on Lemmy is a lot of immature black-and-white thinking where the bad actions of one entity are used to assume that the opposite side are the good guys. Calling out bad behavior does not absolve the bad behavior of their opponents.
😂
Why sue? Just flip their desks and throw them out of the building. /s
Won’t someone please think of the white, Christian men?
The most persecuted of all.
Christian metal? For good reason too. Lame crap.
Based on what I know of trademark law they have a case. Also, they have sue to protect their trade mark they can loose it.
They have a bit of a case, but not really because “demon hunter” is a generic term that predates their band by hundreds of years (LOL).
Trademark is not copyright or patent. Copyright and patents exist to protect the rights of a creator. Trademarks are more about provenance. It protects brands, but also protects consumers of those brands by preventing confusion.
Trademarks are pretty specific. Dr Pepper’s trademark on sugary drinks isn’t infringed by a company selling black pepper because nobody will confuse the products.
Wal-Mart can sell sodas that are similar to popular drinks like Mountain Dew and Dr Pepper, but they call them something like “Mountain Lightning” and “Dr Thunder”. They’re clearly meant to be similar products, but they’re also clearly not the name-brand stuff. But Walmart can’t start selling a knockoff low-calorie soda and call it “Low-Cal Dr Pepper” because it may mislead customers into thinking it’s related to Dr Pepper.
And that’s essentially what’s being claimed here. The band has a trademark on Demon Hunters that specifically covers a band named Demon Hunters selling tickets for live music events. And while there’s going to be some understandable confusion given the popularity of the film, the band alleges that the concerts related to the film should be marketed differently. This is especially true when the band from the film already has a different established name.
The commercialization of Christianity this band takes part in upsets me, but they may also be in the right here. They don’t want their fans buying tickets to a K-Pop show instead of theirs, and K-Pop fans will also be pretty upset when they buy tickets and go to a show only to get preached at.
Surely, consumers will be confused as fuck when they try to purchase a demon hunter service and they end up with some weird metal band.
If anyone’s confusing the market it’s the band!
That’s exactly what trademark doesn’t cover. If it’s different industries with no overlap it’s fine.
I have a Delta scroll saw at the house, and I’ve flown to Atlanta on Delta. They’re different companies sharing a name, but that’s okay because their products don’t overlap.
A more interesting example is Apple. Apple Records and Apple Commputers got info a trademark kerfuffle in the 2000s when Apple Computers started selling music on iTunes.
Cool, the word “Queen” is generic so I should be able to start a band named that, no problem.
Turns out that ‘generic term’ is contextual, and in fact many generic terms are trademark protected especially in the musical group area.
What doesn’t help your argument is that it seems Netflix ran the concerts under “kpop Demon Hunter” not “Demon Hunter”
Also it doesn’t help that there are 65 entries of bands with “Queen” in their name in the metal genre alone.
https://www.metal-archives.com/search?searchString=Queen&type=band_name
The term “demon hunter” has been in use for hundreds of years as a generic term but how long was it in use as a something related to music before the metal band Demon Hunter started using it?
To prove their point, included in the filing is an email from a person who spent $500 on top-tier tickets to a Demon Hunter concert in Albany, thinking they were purchasing admission to a KPop Demon Hunters event for their children, aged five and six. “Is their[sic] anyway to refund me or get me a credit or something[?]” the person wrote. “If I dont get it refunded I will not be able to purchase tickets to the actual ‘K pop demon hunters show’.”
Okay first… That’s ridiculous that this parent paid $400 for tickets for their kids.
Second, rough.
At $500/ticket, I’d assume they’re internationally famous…or maybe they’re doing the musical equivalent of transmorphers hoping to confuse grandma…
pretty sure it’s the total for the whole family
Turn the other cheek you Hippocrate fuck faces.
I don’t think Hippocrates is the man to invoke here, unless they’re doing faith healing then of course ‘do no harm’ comes into play
Thank god you said something, I was about to google that shit. I wasn’t sure if it was Triangleman or ‘Do no harm/Drink this stuff I found’ guy.
They cant, for they have no cheeks to turn.
Poser metal band 1, the Lord 0.They’re pretty legit.
…idk fellas, ya might want to just leave this one to the Satanists. Stick with the Gregorian chanting and call it a day. Also stop fucking altar boys.
I feel really bad for the mom that spent $500 for her kids to see huntrix. Poor kids must have been so disappointed.
I feel bad for the kids, not for the mum. I think parents should take an interest in their kids’ interests. If you’re gonna spend 500 bucks on a band and you can’t be arsed to learn their name, you gotta pay the parent-who-doesn’t-care-about-your-kids-interests tax. The kids probably watched the movie 100 times, you should have been paying attention one of those times. Letting the TV parent your kids, and not even bothering to learn what the TV is saying to them, is neglect.
Great point, I know that shit by heart from my son lol
That’s the thing, these guys are definitely dining out on the confusion. No “Christian metal” band is realistically charging $500 for vip tickets. Especially considering they only sold 600k records in the last 25 years and over +12 albums. They would be lucky enough to be hitting the state fair circuit.
At least two kids + two parents means four tickets total for 500$. I’m not too familiar with average US ticket prices, but 125$ per person doesn’t sound too far fetched even for a smaller band, considering all the upcharges they have on everything.
According to the court filing it was 3 tickets for a mother and two children, so a little over $165 a ticket. I checked the bands website and they just so happen to be coming to a small venue near me which I have frequented several times.
This is a tiny venue which is usually frequented by small indie and cover bands, and the prices for this show are a lot higher than I’ve ever seen. Usually you can catch a show here for 20-30 bucks for an open floor ticket as there is no seating.
They are charging $45 for general admission, but they also are selling access to a roped off section in front of the stage for nearly $200 a ticket. I haven’t actually ever heard of the venue ever doing this, and I don’t even know how they are going to enforce it. The venue is a small room that used to be an old timey movie theater that they ripped the seats out of. It’s small enough to where you wouldn’t really be able to have security on the floor separating the crowd, the total occupancy for the building is like 500 people and that would be packed to the gills.
Either this band has a dedicated weird cult like following… Or they are taking an opportunity to eat out on this confusion.
