He’s over there getting an evil genocidal hate boner while I hope he dies painfully. Extra credit if he starts to realize it in his last seconds.
Perfect example of the irrational hatred people have had instilled in them by their governments/parents/education. To be clear, this guy saw a group of UNICEF workers on the street trying to help people, and thought “no, they’re helping the people I’ve been taught to hate, so I will attack and threaten them with violence/death for doing so.”
Absolute muppet. Should be rounded up and sent back to his shithole country.
People like this should be banned from international travel. They’re not garnering any sympathy for Israel acting like this.
It’s not like Israel deserves sympathy.
Fair.
No… But there are still some embarrassed Israeli people who also don’t condone there government and those people don’t deserve our hate.
This guy sure was fuck isn’t one of them though
Can’t prove it. After all they are staying silent and just express that embarrassment privately.
Brainwashing works huh?
You are not giving that monster enough credit. The psychotic hatred is all him. No brainwashing required.
Yeah im sure his hatred is his own, but the specific targeting of UN staff is not his own idea. Its an implanted idea that utilizes his existing hatred and gives it a target in order to quell potential internal resistance in the Israeli population.
Yeah you’re right, these people are just born monsters, as a baby he was probably already biting the other babies when he got the chance. In fact, shouldn’t even consider these people human right?
Such a dumb take.
In fact, shouldn’t even consider these people human right?
Like the guy in the video considers all Palestinians less than human, hence his confidence in threatening and screaming at checks notes UNICEF workers? 🤔
Right because two wrongs make a right. Well done.
One turn deserves another.
Dudes got some serious nazi vibes. I think he needs to look in the mirror
They really have become the third reich
What kind of fucked up country is this were the police didn’t immediatly came to this altercation and detained the guy.
I mean, he’s not only being violent, he’s even making death threats.
We saw 37 seconds, I don’t believe any country has teleporting police; yet.
You haven’t been to Night City yet, eh?
This is a quality joke. Thank you.
I understood that reference.
America: think of how much more efficiently we could kill black people over bullshit
Well, the video starts already well into the altercation and that’s a high-end main shopping street with all the most expensive shops and the kind of place where there is usually police around, but yeah it’s a a bit of of 50\50 thing whether even in a place like London or Paris a copper would pop-up in time for the video.
Also it depends on how likely people are to call the police in such a situation (if the guy did this in, for example Scandinavia, the police would likey end up involved).
So we agree that calling whatever country this is “fucked up” is a little premature given we don’t have all the information as to what transpired.
It’s not just based on the police response but how other people around him are behaving, for example on their phones and calling the police.
You can see people passing by and ignoring that shit as if it was normal.
A guy shouting “I’ll kill you” whilst pursuing somebody into a store would trigger the people at the store calling the police in most of Europe.
I forget the term but there is something that happens in a society given a large enough number of people.
People will walk on by as they assume with that many people about someone else will call the police or intervene.
Then there is the I don’t want to be murdered by this guy too so I’m not getting involved in that.
I live in Manchester and I see it all the time. There could be 5000 milling about through the city centre and some nutcase screaming at people and nobody cares. They’re too busy, too desensitised, or just terrible people.
Paris is very similar too.
Bystander effect
That’s it. Thanks.
That doesn’t apply to the people at the shop.
It’s in the best interest of the shop to stop this kind of thing ASAP so they’re far more likely to call the cops if there’s an altercation at their door that’s even going into the shop.
Further, it also depends on the kind of country.
I lived in the UK: it’s far more violent as societies go and far more prone to “I don’t want to get involved” behaviours than other countries in Europe. I’ve seen the way people respond to the same situation in for example England and The Netherlands and it’s very different.
Don’t assume that what you see in Manchester is representative of what you would see in Paris, and definitelly not of what you would seen in Northern Europe.
I didn’t assume anything I’ve witnessed it in Paris too.
Anyway, I’ve had enough of debating without all the information so let’s leave it here and both have excellent days.
Perhaps a place where the people are as dangerous as the cops?
He looks so tough in his skinny jeans, his florescent orange sneakers, and his dainty little shopping bag. Truly a terror amongst men.
The title refers to him as a soldier, but all I see is a bitch carrying a polka-dot bag being angry that people make their own decisions.
He’s certainly not built like a soldier. Soldiers have legs like baseball players, because they’re carrying heavy shit over long distances all the time.
You’d think he’d be too busy to complain what with all the children he hasn’t murdered yet.
Headbutt? I’d press charges.
You know the nice part of being a very traditionally masculine person is being able to promote basic human rights without these people scaring me. Try me bro, weight classes exist for a reason.
You don’t need to be the winner of violent conflict to be valid.
Yeah but it is nice to be able to defend yourself against violent people. Also as the other reply said i do appeal to certain kinds of people and maybe they wouldnt listen to a trans person about trans rights but will listen to me.
Yes, but I think the point is that strong man types do appeal to a certain demographic that they are trying to influence, not that it appeals or should appeal to themselves or the general population
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I’m reminded of a clip that I’ve seen that originates on Tik Tok about a guy who says something similar to what you’re saying here, including a clip where the guy went and shouted at a neo-nazi to basically say “you’re not welcome here, fuck off”.
I found it interesting because he explained that this isn’t usually something he would do because he’s very much a voice against toxic masculinity and this means that generally he doesn’t want or need to take the role of the angry, scary man. In this instance though, of the many members of his community who were uncomfortable with a neo-Nazi spewing hate, this guy was best situated to challenge this. I found it especially interesting because there’s a particular kind of aggressiveness to it — like, obviously going up to someone and shouting at them is aggressive, but it was clear that this guy wasn’t going for a fight
This guy knows how to rally!
“say Pastine one more time”
Palestine!
“say Palestine one more time!”
PALESTINE!
But in all seriousness, this nazi needs to go to jail.
I am not tough and I am not a fighter but I would have rocked that guys shit if he came at me like that.
You can usually tell people are not really trying to escalate otherwise he wouldn’t have feigned the head butts and would have just nutted the people.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸 from unstable soldiers like this.
As far as I understand, a successful fight is mainly being to the first one to commit to it. I might stand up to this guy but in a fight lose miserably because I’m unlikely to hit first nor to follow up sufficiently nor would I even have a plan for inflicting enough violence. As a soldier I’m sure he has all of the above
I was a bouncer for 10 years. This is pretty much correct but its also about intensity, if someone starts off with anything lower than 11 out off 10 thats the opening.
Street fights arent boxing matches, theres no rules. You swing at me in public I assume you are intending to kill me and act accordingly until you back off or cant hurt me anymore.
Dont mess with Zohan
So a baby killer loses his head on seeing people who save babies.
Sure is leaving his back exposed to a lot of people…
David Attenborough voice:
here we se the good guy, simply defending his homeland
WE DONT KNOW 100% FOR SURE WHAT HAPPENED HERE. Any video like this lacks context.
DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE. This is how distrust for serious, real journalism is formed! It’s why there are juries, it’s why evidence is questioned.
I am zero fan of IDF, war, or killing children. But we do NOT 100% know that that is related to this.
This is a video… Unless you’re suggesting that it’s a deep fake, we absolutely know what happened here… What we don’t know is what led up to this guy hulking out about Palestine… But it really doesn’t matter. There is no justification for it. This is not normal or okay behavior under any circumstances. This guy is mentally ill and needs serious psychiatric help.
Also: comment all you want, I don’t have the source video or other corroborating videos or anything else at the time I write this comment. I have one video, I don’t see identification on anyone, and I have an internet stranger account claiming this is an IDF soldier and a Unicef worker. The burden of proof isn’t on me!
guy is literally shouting “say Palestine again!” the whole time.
you can turn your brain off if you want. Somehow I don’t think you’d do the same if this was a Muslim attacking an Israeli organization
Thank you for pointing this out!
Well as the downvotes you just got show, Lemmy is just another Reddit clone. No place for rational thought. You either jump on the bandwagon or be railroaded out of town.
Rational thought
Do you assume that these UNICEF workers physically assaulted this guy?
If not then do you assume that even if they said the most vile words in existence that that warrants a physical attack like this?
Funny you should say rational thought but want us all to exercise a level of conjecture as to what happened before.
Rational thought is their code for, “agree with my irrational thought.”
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It’s not a question of “instigation”, it’s a question of transitioning from offensive words to violence, plus the actual issuing of death threats.
Unless you think the UNICEF people (all of whom are smaller in stature) started the violence, this guy is the one who started the violence which in a normal society is the kind of things that criminals do. Him chosing death threats (literally “I’ll kill you!”) rather than non-deadly threats is also highly abnormal (well, maybe not in his society) in that is far more extreme than even a common violent drunk would do (at least here in Europe).
In your group effort to excuse the actions of this guys, you just come out as desperatelly trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
Like I said, not excusing that and he should be arrested.
However before you go farther than what is justified by the context given, ask yourself what you’re assuming about that’s context and how it could change
Context in this situation would only matter in the size of the sentence in a Court of Law.
His action were straighforward Assault, a Crime.
As I said, it’s the transition from words to violence that make it Assault.
Further, you can see him using violence against a guy who is just standing there and not using violence against him (the head butt) as well as against a guy who is actually trying to escape him who he tries to trip and pursues into the store, all of which are most definitelly Attack not Defense.
And all this is assuming you can’t just read the body language of the guy and the other people around him - you can easilly see the others are cowering and he’s attacking not defending himself.
Last but not least the thing that triggered him was clearly the word “Palestine” as shown by him threathening other people with death if they say that word.
You’re doing Narnia-levels of fantasising to excuse a guy who is acting in a pretty straightforward violent bully style and who is triggered into violence by the word “Palestine”, which is not normal unless that person’s a Neue-Nazi.
No. I’m entirely agreeing that there is one person threatening violence here and he deserves to be arrested.
However I’m disagreeing with people here jumping to all sorts of craziness calling him a nazi and child murderer. I suppose he could be and hope that’s investigated by the officers that should arrest him, but it’s not supported by anything we see
That’s the point, WE DON’T KNOW.
What is more likely though, that several UNICEF workers decided to just pick on a random shopper.
Or the random shopper was triggered by UNICEF being there and possibly raising money or awareness about a genocide being committed.
If I had to speculate on what likely happened, it’s quite possible the unicef guys were shooting the shit, commenting on the situation, and triggered a passerby already on edge.
Maybe he just saw it and was triggered, the point is we don’t know.
watch the video with sound. The most likely explanation is they said “we’re raising money to support child welfare in Palestine” or something similar containing the word “Palestine” and this brainwashed troll got triggered by their recognition of Palestinian children as human.
Netenyahu’s razor: when confronted with multiple explanations choose the one that supports the Israeli position
Or maybe all we actually see is the threat of violence. That guy should be arrested. Anything else is speculation but hopefully the police investigate after arresting him
You don’t have to prove anything to me but I hope you reflect on whether you’d be playing such Devil’s advocate for another person on another topic. A Russian being aggressive to people collecting aid for Ukraine maybe?
You can say what you want to me, but really ask yourself.
I do know many fine Russians, including plenty who are horrified by their country’s imperial ambitions.
Same thing. He should be arrested and served justice for his actions, and Lemmy has no call to lay the atrocities of his country’s leadership on him, without at least finding out more
I see one dude going ballistic and a bunch of anxious onlookers.
Come enjoy reality with us!
Not at all, I entirely agree there is one person threatening violence and he should be arrested.
I’m trying to say the lemmings calling him a nazi and him murdering children are out of line. I mean, it could be true but we see nothing here to support that
He’s acting exactly like a brownshirt/Sturmabteilung during the Nazi rise in Germany.
Uhm, idk what the context of “don’t say Palestine again or I will fuck you up the ass” (his words) could possibly mean.
I’ve never seen a UNICEF worker (dressed for work with clipboards in hand) act anyway other than professional.
We ALL know exactly what is happening here.
Yes, I’m sure there’s a reasonable explanation for assaulting United Nations Children’s Fund workers in the streets. I’m sure despite not having any visible injuries, not being restrained, and seemingly being well enough coordinated to rule out a seizure, that he was well within his right to not only be screaming, but to headbutt a non aggressive individual.
Do you think
“people being able to quantitatively disagree with you”
Is the equivalent of
“you’re getting excommunicated and exiled for your vile thoughts”?
You see, these type of false equivalencies are why people think you’re a fucking tool.
Enjoy your L.
Not really, it only shows that lemmy has idiots like you two just like reddit
Sometimes it just feels sooooo good to downvote someone, you know?
