• zen@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    If I won’t own them, I’m not buying them. This is them shooting themselves in the feet.

  • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    im just glad i didn’t invest in a console or a gaming PC because game streaming is going to be the norm very soon.

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      5 days ago

      Hah, no it isn’t. They want it to be, but it’ll only be clueless poors that use it, and then the price will creep up super quickly and it’ll be full of ads and everything is a subscription and your favorite games will just randomly disappear and you won’t be able to do a damn thing about it and suddenly you’ll go “shit, I should have just bought a computer.”

      If you trust streaming gaming to be handled responsibly then you should really ask yourself why these companies want so badly for you to not only not own your games but also not even own your hardware, and why you even entertain the notion that the companies offering it will behave any better when they have total control over your entire gaming ecosystem.

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    6 days ago

    “Sony pushes the idea that “reasonable consumers would not be misled” into believing they own the games in their digital library”.

    Wasn’t this the same basic legal outcome Fox News received when they were sued and it was determined that ‘no reasonable viewer’ would think Tucker Carlson was anything but entertainment? That worked out well.

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    6 days ago

    Even if they succeed with a weird judge to prove this… It’s not the point. We want to own stuff, so either make “owning” available or we stop buying/renting.

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      6 days ago

      Also, there is the common online sentiment “If buying isn’t owning, then piracy is not stealing” and I can’t help but believe that this will permiate even deeper into the gaming culture.

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        3 days ago

        Piracy has never been stealing, whether you were allowed to own the thing or not. Piracy is a copyright infringement.

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      6 days ago

      The courts still need to weigh in on this. If you purchase a license to use the software, the company shouldn’t have the power to revoke that license without cause. The license should last as long as the copyright/patent/etc. does.

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        5 days ago

        There may well be a valid argument that they don’t make it clear enough at the point of sale too.

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    6 days ago

    Its crazy how everybody got used to rental prices as high as physical copy.

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    6 days ago

    That’s why you should buy physical disks. In the worst case you can re-sell them to someone else.

    • ragas@lemmy.ml
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      6 days ago

      Or buy games without DRM. Like on GOG.

      Also wait until development of the game is really done. That way the game is better and cheaper and works on cheaper hardware.

      • jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml
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        6 days ago

        GOG doesn’t work on consoles.

        Jussayin not everyone wants to maintian a PC so they can game…

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            5 days ago

            That is a bullshit arguement. “You dont own the hardware so you dont deserve to own the games” - I do own the hardware… I can’t update/upgrade it the same way I do my PC, but I still own it.

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                5 days ago

                No, you didn’t, it was implied though … And I didn’t quote you, it was paraphrasing your argument

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                  5 days ago

                  Hey guys, you all seem to want to have ownership of your software. Come over here where we have ownership of hardware too!

                  This is bullshit! You are saying we don’t deserve ownership!

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    6 days ago

    Imagine how well digital games would sell if they showed up in your cart like: 1 x Revokable License for God of War $69 See Terms and Conditions* [Confirm Payment]

    • Terms: we will do whatever the fuck we want. Conditions: whenever we want.

    There’s a reason they say “Buy” instead of “Pay”.

    It’s been going on for generations, but it’s no less dishonest for all that. Software sellers write complex EULAs for which the only valid answer is “Agree” because the store won’t take an open box back and the software won’t install unless we pretend to agree, so even us legitimate software enjoyers are pirates in our hearts. Meanwhile normies don’t even think about it that much. Fuck this whole system, but double fuck an online service that says “purchase” but will steal it back later. Fuck that.

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      6 days ago

      1x temporary license to play. Duration of license unspecified.

      Pretty sure in the past it was at least considered a lifetime license.

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        2 days ago

        In the past it didn’t matter, because you had the whole file structure for the application when you purchased it. You either downloaded it in whole as an install file or archive, or you had it on the physical media that you purchased it on. Maybe there was a license you had to input or some other rudimentary DRM system, but you had that too. No remote access from the company, no forced additional downloads or internet connectivity, no phone home. So they could say whatever they wanted, but you actually had the product.

        Now with media files that only play with proprietary tools that phone home, or applications that phone home, your computers are backdoored. And if you have a system that’s backdoored, it’s not really yours, it’s just something you can access for now. That’s what your Kindle is: a backdoored computer with an e-ink screen and proprietary software that can open proprietary files that other software isn’t supposed to be able to open. Which is why no one should buy one.

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          2 days ago

          You should stop buying that shit then.

          Also isn’t the kindle fine if you just download offline files? Its been a very long time since I used one though.