So you mean to tell me they had the technology the whole time to make upgraded modular chips and sell them for pre-existing computer architecture but chose not to because they knew people would pay for the shiny new toys.
There’s a chip crisis and SUDDENLY!!! We’re all able to use new technologies on old computer architectures…
Call it supply and demand but I think that’s fucked up nm which way you look at it.
I read that and then immediately thought to myself, so they just chose not to release upgrades for old architectures and speed released a shit load of new hardware they knew people would pay OTA for.
This whole time they could’ve actually been making old computers better than they are and make it so the consumer didn’t have to spend a fuck load on upgrades but waited till a chip shortage to do it…
meanwhile, gamers nexus released a video about ddr3 systems.
considering ddr4 has triple the production volume than 3/5 right now, it feels like the safer choice.
The only place where you’ll ever notice any difference between RAM generations is the specs sheet. And even there it’s minor.
Call it supply and demand but I think that’s fucked up nm which way you look at it.
Intel and AMD - the entire x86 duopoly - is basically there specifically to ensure consumer PCs are as shit as possible, and to do everything in their power to slow down any meaningful technological progress.
Exactly, Intel dug their heels in and gave us quad core after quad core for the best part of 10 years whilst AMD was floundering around until Ryzen Gen 1 came along. No innovation just because they didn’t have to.
Turns out new sockets were just to rip you off.
Yeah. Cannon vs Nikon was a great example.
I’m so glad I didn’t listen to people online about staying on the “dead” AM4 socket for my rig upgrade two years ago. My 5800X3D might end up being the best value purchase I’ve ever made…
Yeah but DDR4 is just as expensive these days.
Definitely has become more expensive, but I assume this is intel trying to sell units to consumers with existing systems that otherwise would not be upgrading, due to the cost of moving to a DDR5 platform.
Not really, prices for DDR4 “only” have doubled, whereas prices for DDR5 have quadrupled.
I checked recently and my particular ddr4 memory has quadrupled. I had bought an extra 16Gb just before the crisis because I hit oom with poe1 once, so I guess it was lucky timing. Haven’t checked other rams though.
I better get around to formatting my old PC and selling it. The 128gb DDR4 3600 kit in it should net me a fair bit of coin, as would the brand-new 5950x that came from a RMA. I want to pay off the debt I accumulated from building my new machine.
That would let me scrimp and save up some coin for the AI bubble popping. In the long run, I want to replace my RTX 4090 and x2 3060s with x4 RTX Pros.
Things don’t get cheaper. They might slow down how much they are increasing in price, but don’t expect equipment to somehow revert to something less than what you paid for it.
AI bubble popping would almost immediately crash the pricing. All AI earmarked hardware would be suddenly fair game, any hardware in the datacenters would be sold off, and you would see a dramatic rise in availability.
So yeah, you can absolutely see things getting cheaper.
Except most of that data center hardware is designed for only it. Think GPUs with no video output, rack mounted liquid cooling, etc. There is very little reusable.
If there’s loads of crazy GPUs sitting around for low prices i’d bet people would create adapters for home use. Even if it can only be used for AI, we’d be in the golden age of local inference.
Rolling with my 5800X3D 'till the wheels fall off and even then I have a 5700X3D as a backup. I’m not upgrading until 5090-level GPU performance is available for less than $800.
I drove my FX-8320 into the ground through college and a few years beyond. That poor little chip got tortured with so much voltage…
My 5800X3D will be in my maxed out AM4 rig for a looonnnggg time.
I’m not upgrading
Feel like it’s more “when designing an upgrade you do it all at once not piecemeal” so it never made sense to use old tech before because you’ll just cause a bottleneck.
Even though I still feel like using “the fastest” ram used to just end up giving you more problems and crashes…
We’re all able to use new technologies on old computer architectures…
Except we’re not? They’re still the same raptor lake CPUs. Maybe a bump in clock speed, maybe a change in core counts. But the underlying technology is still the exact same. The only new tech I’d expect on these boards is WiFi 7 instead of 6e. But most WiFi cards on desktop are M.2 and you can already swap them out.
The only mew thing is that they’re making them again, and making new versions of them. Otherwise it’s the same stuff. It’s just giving people a second chance to upgrade to this older stuff.
Does this mean I can finally upgrade my i7 from 2018 without ditching my mobo and ram?
No.
We’re talking about fresh spins on Raptor Lake and Alder Lake here, which previously made up the 12th/13th/14th Gen, and were last released as a major launch in 2023.
Lol remember when they software locked LGA1511 to prevent 8th and 9th gen CPUs from working on existing 6th/7th gen motherboards, and then the modding community bypassed it with some BIOS mods and Teflon tape.
This whole time they could’ve actually been making old computers better than they are and make it so the consumer didn’t have to spend a fuck load on upgrades but waited till a chip shortage to do it…
This isn’t anything new in the component industry. Nvidia is even more guilty of this with their RTX ray tracing scam which now looks comically small next to their subsequent AI bubble.
I’ve personally preferred AMD for this reason because they actually thought ahead of Intel on several occasions like x64, multicore processors, more efficient laptop CPU power consumption, actually funding next gen hardware specs, etc.
In my eyes, the last time Intel was even “on top” of AMD was the skylake overclock era where single thread performance was still sought after heavily.
Hilariously though my servers are all Intel xeons because of their sheer production volume making used parts much cheaper than AMD.
Its almost as if its planned obsolescence or somethin
AI is causing human regression. That’s what this is.
Is one thing to poison the minds of idiots, but this is technological regression.
Things are getting bad.
The monopolists realized that their product is no longer unique so they have to create bottle necks in order to force out competition.
Humans are causing human regression. The tool is different, the pattern is the same.
i would say it’s causing a capitalism growth spurt which is “too fast” for the owning class to really keep up, especially with more and more working class realizing capitalism is the problem, not ai, chips, socket types…
i am hoping this growth will be what will cause its downfall.
AI: the gap years.
I hate this movie.
Cool I’ll buy some DDR4 before I gets expensive… Annnnnd. It’s gone.
