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This is absolutely crazy and I don’t know if I can listen to the audio, saw a ton of people warning against it. Saw some people speculate if it was AI which, yeah, I get, but I don’t like how AI has gotten to the point where we have to second-guess, and doubt everything.
When I first saw the video I thought it was AI until I found a news article confirming it and seeing the background of the crater match the video.
It’s not AI, it’s recorded audio from publicly available and documented radio broadcasts, and if you are at all a sensitive person don’t listen to it. It’s fucking awful.
This includes anyone in an aviation related profession. There is nothing to learn here. It will not make you better or safer. It’s just some poor woman screaming to her death. There will probably be something to learn from the findings of the investigation, but not this recording.
Craziest footage ive seen in a while. This plane turned to dust almost instantly. At least they did not suffer.
Were any of them billionaires?
no, they were in economy class and going on a work trip.
Reddit moment.
You see a tragedy where a crew and entire family with kids gets turned into char and your knee-jerk comment is “Weeell, were any of those people financially successful? Because if they were, that would turn this tragedy into a wholesome moment 🤗”
This comunity is so beyond saving. Even if we turned the world into a utopia tomorrow, i wouldn’t want any of these psychopaths anywhere close to me. You are part of the problem if you celebrate deaths.
This is not reddit. We are past the age when it would be cringe. It is class war. You are just joining the hypercapitalist team. Your team wants billionaires to slaughter lesser humans with use of megacorp demonic entities, and the other side wants humans to not be slaughtered at all.
Your world view seems to be entirely shaped by online echo chambers. Take it from someone who has been terminally online before, limiting one’s screen time does wonders for the head.
No, there is an ongoing class war. Did you not notice? Did you go outside, and then actually not see that billionaires are grinding down humans without pretense now?
Can you please give a list of concrete examples?
billionaires have no empathy so its not outrageous to expect this type of perspective for them.
billionaires have no empathy
Source? Does someone’s net-worth going from $999M to $1B automatically make them a sociopath?
Ok that is a little unfair of me. I do get where you’re coming from, that billionaires tend to do want what’s best for them. And because of their wealth, things they do have a lot of impact on regular people. Impact which may very well be negative (as well as positive, nothing is black and white).
it does come off as sociopathic/selfish when their actions impact us negatively. But it does not come from a place of hatred for humanity, I don’t believe it. In my opinion, they’re regular people who have a huge egos, and are trying to shape the world in their own vision, which people might not really want. A sort of humanity’s savior complex.
I mean look at this comment section, people invoking threats of violence and calling for mass killings of the rich and their families. It’s individuals with their own perception of justice and fairness seeking to shape the world in their own vision, to make it “better” in their eyes. Only difference is that they lack influence power, but besides that, is it really any different from what people on top are doing currently?
P.s.: Just to make it clear, I am not defending the 1% class, no one person should ever hold that much power/wealth. But calling for violence and rejoicing in death? No, that is savage and animalistic, and I must believe we are better than that by now.
it does come off as sociopathic/selfish when their actions impact us negatively. But it does not come from a place of hatred for humanity, I don’t believe it. In my opinion, they’re regular people who have a huge egos, and are trying to shape the world in their own vision, which people might not really want. A sort of humanity’s savior complex.
I think you’re missing my point. I’m not calling for violence or rejoicing in death. This was tragic, especially for the kids.
I lack empathy for the parents specifically. They chose to vacation in the Bahamas on a private jet while billions struggle to afford basic necessities. That choice is what they are and it signals they prioritize their comfort over collective well-being, including economic fairness and environmental sustainability.
Let them have their ego inflation but let it come with consequences. If we condemn wealth concentration but ignore its human cost (emissions, inequality), then yes, we’re being hypocritical about who deserves empathy.
The disconnect isn’t personal hatred and instead it’s recognizing that their lifestyle choices directly harm people like us. A commercial flight crash is a different story entirely. When the wealthy opt out of shared realities and consume resources at our expense, expecting full sympathy seems to contradict holding them accountable for how they’ve built their power.
they prioritize their comfort over collective well-being, including economic fairness and environmental sustainability.
By that logic, majority should give up their comfort and wealth for the sake of collective, because there will always be someone doing worse than others. Except you’d be hard-pressed to convince any regular persons to do so. So why should the family in the airplane? Plus take a look at this:
According to his LinkedIn profile, he founded Retention.com in January 2020 and said he grew the company to $20 million in annual recurring revenue within 3 1/2 years, without outside funding. (Source)
They only just now made came into moderate, self-made wealth. Should they immediately give it up? And I question the magnitude of the negative impact their little vacation has had on us to be honest. Just some food for thought, not every issue has to devolve into a “us vs them”. I implore anyone reading to always be critical of any calls for such way of thinking.
10 innocent people to one billionaire death is an absolutely steal compared to how many people each billionaire kills every year
edit: y’all missing the point
I bet you’d love to be one of those 10 yourself if such a “steal” deal were to come up.
Shame for the kids, but a worthy sacrifice.
Worthy sacrifice for whom? How hard is it to understand that if 1 billionaire dies, another one takes their place immediately. Billionaires are not root cause of all worlds woes, but rather it’s a symptom of a broken system that allows for such extreme accumulation of wealth. Inheritance should be abolished or at least have a max cap, but people will always cry it infringes on their freedom…
They literaly fucking are. A small Cabal of people since the collapse of Rome, corrupting the human race.
The arch-demons, and bane if the human race.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted bro. You’re exactly right. Billionaires are like a hydra. We have a system that breeds them, cranks them out, gives them safe harbor in the highest levels of government. Same thing with fascists. We (the people) need to vote them out, put much tighter walls around money and government … but its not the individuals per se, it’s the whole rigged system that needs to be fixed (or chucked), so that we don’t keep breeding people like billionaires.
He is downvoted because he presented his point in a way that’s really annoying to read
Mind pointing out more specifically why it is annoying to read? English is not my native language.
Accusations like “how hard is it to understand…” and “people should…” feel preachy, since this is lemmy people are driven by feelings more than argument so something like “I believe…” is much more palatable
Downvotes don’t mean much here anyway. Someone else is heavily downvoted in this thread for simply pointing out I’m not a man. The users who enjoy watching death videos don’t like their circle-jerking over dead people interrupted with any sort of kindness or care for others.
Billionaires are not root cause of all worlds woes
Yes they are. They are literally bribing the politicians into making life harder for everyone else. Then, when someone tries to ease the suffering by getting get a reasonable and minor socialism (e.g., universal health-insurance), they drop bankers’ trucks against it while demonizing a scape goat of a minority that does no harm (see transgender people). They are literally repeating pre-revolutionary France. That is why people cheer when their planes crash.
Billionaires are like a cancer, they seek to grow grow grow without foresight on how that would affect their own environment in which they thrive. But what caused said cancer in the first place? And once again, the system allowed for them to accumulate enough wealth and power, and even still the system allows them to use that wealth and power for their own gain. Everything functions as designed in a capitalistic laissez faire system, that is until a critical point when it won’t.
“It’s a cancer, so we should find a way to deal with the genetic cause of the cancer in our patient rather than cutting it out?”
Thank fucking Christ you’re not an oncologist, because your own metaphor shows why you have to get rid of the billionaires immediately. First, cut it out if you can. Second, if it starts coming back, treat it with poison and hope the body doesn’t die. Third, find a way to treat the genetic defect or environmental factor which caused it in the first place. You have to do all of those, but the first one is objectively more pressing.
the system allowed for them to accumulate enough wealth and power
The system they designed.
Everything functions as designed in a capitalistic laissez faire system, that is until a critical point when it won’t.
Per their design.
Imagine if we were willing to kill all the confederates kids, all the Nazis kids? Do you think those movements would be as powerful today?
Please mark NSFW, while not graphic, this is a recording of the death of multiple people.
You would have no way of knowing if the plane was empty from the video. It does not show any deaths. You just know about it from other sources. Overusing NSFW is not the way to go.
And the people on board teleported out?
Jets are not something you Parachute out of
Maybe they did parachute out. It’s unusual but not impossible. Maybe they got sucked out cause a door opened unexpectedly. Maybe they died before the crash for some reason. You can’t know from the video. That’s the point. The video does not show any deaths. Or is a timelapse of earth from space showing deaths and should be marked NSFW in your view?
Maybe they did parachute out
they didn’t. we know that. They were on board. Don’t know what your problem is
I know people are dying on Earth. Doesn’t make video of Earth NSFW. You don’t see anyone die on the video.
Man, you are dense. Are you eating tungsten for breakfast?
Why are you fighting so hard for people to watch death videos in their feed without warning?
Is it thrilling for you to watch videos knowing those people died in that very instant? Does it make your heart skip a beat in excitement knowing that 2 children saw their death coming as their parents prayed to God to save them before they slammed into the ground? Give you a smile knowing that the two pilots did everything they could to save lives and failed anyway?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Because I use NSFW to not see inappropriate content in public places. Which is what the mark was created for. If everything gets marked NSFW, the marking becomes useless to me. If you want people mark other trigger warnings, go for it, but don’t call it NSFW.
It’s already been marked as NSFW, cry harder.
lol, the nsfw crybaby is telling my to cry harder 🤣 Can it be more ironic? 🤣
You can find this footage on the frontpage of most news sites now. But if you really want to.
I think we should add “some people can consider this scary” tag. Let people filter out anything potentially “traumatizing”.
We should uphold higher standards than most news sites. Thanks.
Aside from the fear, it was painless. And that’s a mercy.
A fearful death seems genuinely horrible thougj
Oh there’s no doubt this was horrible all Around. But the suffering was short. And they felt nothing.
Being in omg I’m going to die levels of fear is suffering
Yeah different levels, dying in intense fear and painless isn’t my top way to die, but it’s definitely not the worst way to go.
I think we’d all prefer a quick, painless, and completely unnoticed death when the time comes. Most get slow and painful. This was in-between those two for me
Effing Facebook idiots are full on conspiracy cover up mode with this. Spouting it was really a missile and the plane and radio traffic was all a Psy op cover up and shit. They’re nutty as hell. It wouldn’t even make sense.
If it was a missle, wouldn’t it have actually hit something worth using an expensive missle on? Not just a random road in Florida?
They should have inverted the plane. They should have rolled it.
Thank you for not marking nsfw. I love to read the comments when everyone starts crying.
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Who was on it?
some rich dude who works in tech. also his two young children, sadly.
And their au pair and two pilots.
This is the first time I see a real airplane crash, and not some CGI simulation, the sheer speed of that aircraft is crazy to witness.
you’ve never seen the 9/11 videos?
always crazy to me how the planes just disappear upon impact, it feels like it should be breaking the laws of physics or somethingForgot about those, I saw the second crash live.
The last adsb ping had it descending at > 30000 feet per minute. That means they were traveling over 300 mph straight down. I’ve read about a large number of aviation accidents, and this is the first time I’ve ever seen vertical speeds that extreme.
This was no accident but it crashed at 700kmph
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Eastern_Airlines_Flight_5735
Why does it seem like someone is trying to cover that up?
If only an Israeli plumber broke into the cockpit to save the day…
I really don’t get the joke that you’re trying to make?
Allegedly an Israeli plumber saved a flydubai flight to Israel and disarmed the attacked during a dive like this. And the cockpit looked fine afterwards.
There was a recent plane hijacking attempt (by one of the pilots, no less) to perform a suicidal crash of the plane, the plane was en route to Israel with a lot of Israelis onboard, and they thwarted the attempt fairly heroically.
Yeah this is a crazy accident. They basically plummeted from cruising altitude. The audio is devastating to hear.
It was more or less in free fall the entire time. Likely reached terminal velocity. They tried to roll the plane to get lift back which is why the plane is sideways, but they couldn’t pitch it back up.
One of the current theories is the stabilizers on the tail got obstructed or damaged by ice. They detached at some point before the crash. They were found a few miles away from the crash site today.
Yeah, I was not ready for that audio. It happened so fast, but you could still tell how aware the pilots were of how unrecoverable the situation was. RIP, they didn’t deserve to go out like that.
I had to look it up, you’re not kidding. The pilot literally just screams their decent rate (22,000 feet per minute) and bank (60°) a few times and then nothing.
3 comments about the audio and no link, shocking.
Is it normal for ATC to be this emotionally detached?
- OMG we’re going to die!!!
- Ok let me know if you need any additional assistance
Kinda thinking the same thing, but at the same time, what was he supposed to say? He’s probably shaken during it too and you don’t want to say anything to incite more panic, or try to be comforting but miss the mark and waste their last seconds of life.
Do not click this if you don’t want to hear someone panicking right before they die. If you are not in a good situation to handle that, this is not for you. You gain nothing from hearing it.
Yeah cheers. Definitely not clicking that.
I mean that first hit is basically dirt rising and liquid humans
We’re not marking death videos with NSFW these days?
not if the death isn’t visible
Too late, mods had OP mark it NSFW.
This is a death video regardless.
Question is, why are we marking videos NSFW when there’s nothing to it. I’ve seen many.
I’ve seen so many.
Because no matter how many NSFW videos you watch, it doesn’t change the video being NSFW.
You realize you are not the only person in the world, right? And that’s why standards and conventions exist?
Thanks for the reminder…I nearly forgot that I’m not the only person in existence…pfff…arrogant P*!K!
It still does not change the fact that this video does not really qualify as a NSFW video…people at Work will watch this and not get in any trouble …at work!
See that’s where we disagree though, and is the entire point that I’m making. Just because you won’t “get in trouble” doesn’t mean it isn’t NSFW.
It must be nice to live in your world…lollipops and rainbows everyday…
Not everyone enjoys watching others die.
Then don’t watch a video labelled plane crash?
To be fair to the guy you are commenting to, it auto plays while scrolling through Lemmy, at least on mine. So I can see some people may end up seeing it that didn’t want to. 🤷
Velma is a woman, not a guy.
So?
Oof, someone downvoted you for this? I’m sorry, that’s super petty. Thank you for saying something!
Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw.
But you didn’t actually see anyone die. You know it from news reports. Also I’m not referring to this video. I just think the NSFW label is overused and abused in terms of click-baiting.
It is, and it also becomes a weapon for the growing puritan culture.
But a huge explosion, that’s a plane crash, where 9 people die in an accident is still NSFW. It is not a video of cute cats playing in the sun, it is a video of people fucking dying, even if you can’t easily make out people bits explode in the fireball.
Perhaps your argument would work…50 years ago? Today with trump and ubiquitous cams…this is everyday news. People getting shot in schools, and doing crazy stuff. It really brings the reality to the fore front on our existence. We are easily extinguish…and all life is precious…so we should all endeavor for peace and coexistence.
No I get it, things have absolutely changed. Things that 50 years ago would be gross and offensive today is casual or even still professional speak and vice versa. That still doesn’t change the fact that I think it is and should be considered NSFW or have a caution or warning that it contains death.
Fine, then throw a CW at least.
You don’t need to dig your heels in on insisting people should watch this death video.
I agree, there should’ve been some warning at least. It is tragic and horrific.
Thank you, that’s the only point I was trying to make.
Then don’t look for the ATC communication with the airplane. That’s NSFL.
Why is it nsfl?
It’s just a window into the horrible moments as people suddenly realize they are about to die and are unable to prevent it. It’s NSFL because it’s likely to stick with you long after you’ve heard it.
No shit. I didn’t listen to it on purpose. I did read the transcript.
With this type of topic, we should be giving people the choice to opt in to watching it by putting a CW or NSFW.
“Private jet slams into roadway with 9 people on board” not enough warning?
Is it NSFW? There’s no gore, no nudity, and no swearing. The title and community already state it’s not exactly feel good but I don’t see anything that you wouldn’t see in any Marvel movie.
Some servers (including the one I’m on just now) don’t show anything tagged as NSFW, as an easy means of complying with stupid internet laws. Using the NSFW tag as a catch all term for anything you may not want to see then censors large amounts of content.
Why would you be involved in a server that blocks content like that. Basically every Lemmy browser has the option to not show NSFW content. This shouldn’t be done at the instance level and should be left for the user. You should move instances.
What?? Nine real people DIE instantly in a fucking fireball explosion in this video.
Of course this should be tagged NSFW.
Fix your server, get on a different one, fix your laws, or figure out a way to bypass the block. Don’t not comply with community standards that everybody else uses because your country is messed up.
There’s a discussion possible.
I know people who look at the news at work and that often talks about Israel and the USA killing people all over the place.
The world is an ever increasingly messed up place, and we messed up for being in it.
The news is no standard to go by. We should be better.
Some servers (including the one I’m on just now) don’t show anything tagged as NSFW
that’s a problem with your server, and not one the rest of fedi should have to accommodate.
Yes watching this video knowing that 9 people have died upon impact makes this a death video.
What’s so wrong with erring on the side of caution and putting NSFW or a CW up?
The title and community already state it’s not exactly feel good but I don’t see anything that you wouldn’t see in any Marvel movie.
Just because you are desensitized to watching death doesn’t mean the rest of us are.
CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously.
Holy shit, look at that, the video is marked NSFW now. What a shocker!
Maybe death videos shouldn’t be pushed so easily into people’s timelines. Let people choose to watch it if they want.
Let people choose to watch it if they want.
Right back at you.
This video was one of the top stories on the BBC’s website today and I’m sure many other news websites around the world. It was “censored” by pausing for 1 second at the point of collision but otherwise it was the exact same video.
If the BBC are putting it on their front page it’s unlikely to be NSFW.
If the BBC are putting it on their front page it’s unlikely to be NSFW.
Yeah defending the BBC is always the right move lol
I still think death videos should be opt in and not pushed to everyone’s front page without any warning or censoring.
Tbf the title makes it quite clear, but the best compromise is a CW so the user can make the call.
Wild, that small car looks like it was caught up in it.
The white car was not hit, it was actually much further back than it appears in the video. In some of the aftermath pictures, you can see it survived. It was definitely damaged by the shockwave but not directly hit. No one on the ground was killed, as far as I know.
The fact that the plane went down vertically seems to have really minimized the damage. There’s one frame where the plane is just disappeared, flattened into that crater. The explosion happened from inside the crater and that would do a lot to protect the immediate surroundings.
The white car just below the crater
