• BartyDeCanter@piefed.socialEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Of course, now it’s even worse because all of the discussion is happening is some shitty closed IM service instead of a regular openly readable and searchable forum.

    • RockBottom@feddit.orgOPEnglish
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      5 days ago

      Well, maybe it’s better that way. We can consider it again once the internet is not used commercially anymore.

      • BartyDeCanter@piefed.socialEnglish
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        5 days ago

        Except that it’s now harder to find a question answered from an actual person, because you have to join their Discord server, deal with the annoying pops in the ui, deal with a mostly broken search system that can’t find a discussion by topic since it’s just a chat log, and then either have your question either be missed in the conversation because it was asked at the wrong time and the person who knows it was asleep and now it’s scrolled into history or not get answered because they are tired of answering the same questions over and over again since no one can find when it was answered two days ago.

        Meanwhile, I can go to an almost thirty year old forum and find that my question was answered in 1998, with nice updates in 2005 and a follow on in 2016.

        Or I can ask AI.

        I definitely have a ranked preference for those options and is sure as hell isn’t dealing with fucking Discord.

  • merc@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    5 days ago

    The library is still there. The books are still free. There’s no charge for admission.

    Admittedly, the card catalogue is now covered in slop, so it’s a bit harder to find things. But, everything’s still there.

    • Seldon@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      5 days ago

      Vast swaths of the internet have extinguished over time. The last bastion holding the glue together of the old internet remains largely in the internet archive and Space Jam’s website from 1996. Most of what is left is the fascist commercial conglomerates capitalizing on the remains.

      The point is that not only are these companies turning public work into products, they’re also choking the last bit of life left out of the old internet, and driving up the price so that no one can ever make their own thing on the internet.

    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      5 days ago

      This, the library is still there but now you can pay a librarain to tell you anything about any book in the library, but they might misremember parts lol.

  • Digit@lemmy.todayEnglish
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    6 days ago

    <insert the deadpan stare, from every anarcho socialist whatever whoever who had ever critiqued this uneconomic paradigm, that sternly says in its glare “told you so”>

  • Waterpumpee@lemmus.orgEnglish
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    6 days ago

    Where did y’all upload your tutorials? Youtube? Newsflash, big corpo benefitted from it already.

    • FaceDeer@fedia.io
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      6 days ago

      Might apply to places like Stack Overflow specifically, where the hostility of human interaction made people quite eager to leap to AI instead.

      • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
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        6 days ago

        I never ever had to interact on SO and similar sites, I use them solely for searching for solutions, and for that they’re perfect - and probably provide a significant amount of data for answering questions on ChatGPT etc.

        It’s not like the internet didn’t work as an answering machine before AI. Often you can enter the exact same prompt into a search engine instead and get better answers. But oh no, you have to click on a website and maybe even scroll down a little!

        • BartyDeCanter@piefed.socialEnglish
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          5 days ago

          When I first used it, it wasn’t so bad. Yeah, some people were egotistical about things but I could usually get a reasonable answer, and when I answered something before anyone else I would get an upvote or two.

          Later, every time I asked a question (that I had spent a day or two researching and searching for an answer), within a few minutes my question would be marked as duplicate by someone with a jillion points, and the question that was pointed to as the dupe would have literally nothing to do with my question at all. Like, I would ask a question about clang internals and get duped as a question about the Windows networking stack.

          And when I answered a question, with a complete well reasoned response with an example, it would get downvoted into oblivion while a poor answer from someone else with those jillion points would get a hundred upvotes.

        • mobyduck648@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 days ago

          It was more that the owners had a very different idea of the site to what most people wanted to use it for, they wanted to create something akin to Wikipedia of code while most people wanted their programming questions answered. I definitely think a lot of the community had an attitude problem, but the wider problem is more that the users and owners were talking about totally different sites for the most part.

          I don’t think their ideal was ever realistic to be honest, the main problem I had with SO was less the reflexive rudeness and power-tripping and more that the community seemed a bit delusional about the basic passage of time and the evolution of industry practice. You’d often see a comically obsolete answer as the canonically accepted one, and if you had a question about something even tangentially related to that canonical answer some smarmy little goblin would come along to close it as a duplicate. It wasn’t very good at what it purported to be, much less what most users thought it was for.

        • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 days ago

          Yes it was, I couldn’t post a question that didn’t get downvoted and/or ridiculed for how stupid I was for asking the question in the first place.

          Then I was always told my question isn’t broad enough to even bother asking, so I might as well not ask.

        • Sabata@ani.socialEnglish
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          6 days ago

          I got told to kill myself and quit programming for asking a beginner question as a kid. Didn’t even get my question answered.

        • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
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          6 days ago

          It has its ups and downs and back when I added a shit ton of responses I always tried to keep being friendly and helpful. But even back then there were dicks on the platform, and not too little of them. At some point, it shifted and the dicks started to overwhelm everything.

    • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.comEnglish
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      6 days ago

      That’s pretty much how it works? Either someone pays specifically for an artist’s work, or someone might buy it and donate it, or maybe the artist has an exhibition…

      The, post is talking about AI involuntarily taking the collective work of the net and then charging a fee to regurgitate it.

      The difference is choice and free will

    • Carrot@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      6 days ago

      This is such a bad take. Museums pay for the art they show. If they don’t, it’s because it was donated or on loan. The living artists are compensated, or were happy to give/loan to a museum. The dead artist’s art was bought, donated by the artist’s family, or loaned. In the cases that the art was looted or stolen back during colonial times, most normal humans want those pieces returned to the rightful owners, because it’s theft.

      • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.socialEnglish
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        6 days ago

        Museums [rob] for the art they [steal]

        Dead people can’t claim copyright, living artists have to sue arms and legs to take their works off museums. Museums are open colonizers’ economic laundering.

        • Carrot@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          5 days ago

          Museums have a ton of stolen artwork in them, that’s why I brought it up, but modern acquisitions are typically legitimate (in the sense that someone was paid for making art and the museums have the right to display it). Dead people can’t claim copyright, but their living family members can, at least for 70 years after their death. If a living artist sold a piece, and it gets put into a museum, they no longer have a say as to what is done with that art, since they typically sell the rights along with the painting. I know that most at purchases/donations to museums are corporate money laundering, but art really isn’t being stolen by museums at large anymore, and the general public has a problem with the artwork in museums that is stolen.

  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    6 days ago

    This isn’t “leopards ate not face”, unless you think the people making the guides are responsible for LLM slop

      • radix@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 days ago

        I held my nose and went to twitter to check the profile. He’s definitely pro-AI, though I suppose there’s a narrow path of pro-open-source AI but anti-corporate AI.