It seems Linus’s position is very clear now
I can’t wait for a base linux install to be 60 GB of slop, like windows.
I actually do think that someone who already has multiple decades of experience in programming without using AI is probably not producing shoddier code after incorporating it into their workflow. Important modern software projects, whose backbones are programmers fitting that description, aren’t going to be worse in the present because of Claude usage. I remain strongly against it though, because normalizing its usage guarantees the future won’t have programmers that fit that description running the shows.
I think this can be framed as a statement about generative AI in general: If you think AI has been making everything shittier today, just wait until you see what it’s been doing to everything tomorrow.
Any chance Claude code could come up with a solution that would fall under the copyright of a third party?
Any chance? Yes.
Linus has said that he reads compiler output. I have no doubt that he reads the code, I’m not particularly worried about bad code.
… obviously he can read it but you people insist it takes so much more time to do it this way. Linus is proving that is a lie. Why would he do that if writing code was so much easier?
Also you people cry about the water usage etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. the water is being used here. Why is it okay for him to do it?
You also don’t know him. Maybe he’s not reading every piece of code.
Yall are hypocrites. Fucking hypocrites. And yall gatekeep from people “you don’t know”(aka if you aren’t already fucking famous you’ve got the mark of the beast Abe deserve ridicule). Yall can’t see how you’re fighting the fight for the oligarchs. You can’t see how you pick and choose who is allowed to use new tech. Fuck all of yall hypocrites. You’re wrong.
Also you people cry about the water usage etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. the water is being used here. Why is it okay for him to do it?
It’s not.
I just hope he doesn’t get lazy and brainrotted like I’ve seen happen with coworkers. People who used to call themselves “software craftsmen” now shipping 1k+ line changesets with fully generated documentation.
Nobody freaks out when skilled programmers/professionals use AI, it’s actually a tool for them and not full-on skill substitution.
lots of people freak out actually (not me)
What you’re saying is that if you aren’t a famous programmer you deserve to be ridiculed for using the same tool?
And how do you square this with all the crying about water?!
Not if you’re famous, if you’re bad at coding on your own
Where did I say famous? Read harder. Water concerns are separate from wreckless vibe-coding concerns.
Yeah, of all the people out there using Claude, he’s the absolute least worrisome. He’ll read the whole thing, and if he doesn’t like anything at all that it does, he won’t let it do it.
I can’t edit to see Linus fucking loose it with Claude.
Is this the beginning of the end for Linux?
Might be.
for people wondering what “folios” in Linux memory management are: https://lwn.net/Articles/937239/
Linux Foundation has financial backers. He’s gotta give them lip service to keep them excited and happy. Anthropic is now a Gold Member. Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Amazon are all Platinum Members.
FOSS has always been subject to corporate meddling in their governance. There’s a reason we call it Linux and not GNU-Linux. GNU gets no money so GNU goes nowhere.
Linus gives a headline using agents, Linux gets millions to continue doing real work. That’s the game they are playing, for better or worse.
Linus regularly posted on Google+, it’s more like he himself isn’t that into foss and sees everything as a utility to use
Nobody can prove this is the case. Linus sees coding LLMs as an inevitable evolution and compares them to what compilers were for Assembly.
I don’t personally think this particular use of LLMs is unethical, but using open models would definitely improve the look.
It was already clear. Anybody speaking otherwise has already been tagged and flagged as such.
The man has clearly gone senile, going from the human label of person to gear.
Trying to use the plagiarism machine that also causes DOT lobotomied as a convenient side effect will not land you in the good graces of anyone with a functioning brain.
I see you’re the arbiter of who has a functioning brain now.
Linus is - always were - a sellout. Never ask what the Finns were doing during the WWII.
Yo you still operate even after yandex blew up? You must be chinese based
momentLet me see, would you do what the Finns were doing if given the chance? Good to know. The russo sino phobia is to be expected.
Lick my balls with a passion bot
Go away Nazi
Calling everyone you don’t like nazis?
Calling a Nazi what he is. Learn to identify naziofascism before it bites you back. Unless you’re a serpent’s egg too.
I love how you refer to people who give you things.
I haven’t seen your kernel and OS yet, so let me know when it’s ready.
The community gave things, Linus is just a small part of this. Westerners, smh.
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Learn solidarity and communality, drop your liberalism, and talk again.
Maybe he just
diffs it to the latest commit and actually only manually reads through what Claude changed? No idea…Sure, buddy. That’s what everyone is doing.
How much has he dumbed down his capabilities already? When will he replace himself by an LLM?
He was already pretty dumbed down back when he used to shit on C++. From there to the neutering he went on (we don’t get middle fingers for Nvidia anymore) and now this… it’s sad to watch.
Die a hero or else, as the saying goes.
Love this, opus 5.5 is absolutely nuts at optimization. I was able to use it to get some 10x performance improvements recently.
