Nintendo are scumbags but this isn’t scummy. You can’t expect money back for everything you buy if and when they get discounted.
By the same logic, Nintendo isn’t entitled to a refund because they got what they paid for.
Ok well I am never buying another Nintendo product again. Fuck them.
Nintendo told the court that “the doctrine of unjust enrichment does not apply when a party voluntarily pays a purchase price and receives a product in return.” Nintendo said plaintiffs “received exactly what they paid for: Nintendo products that Plaintiffs knowingly and voluntarily purchased at the advertised price. Nor is there anything ‘unjust’ about Nintendo retaining money that it may receive from the government as tariff refunds. The fact that Nintendo stands to receive tariff refunds does not give Plaintiffs any legal entitlement to those funds.”
I’m a lifelong Nintendo fan but this is robber baron speak. You don’t blame the victim of price manipulation by telling them they deserve to pay unjust prices because they have no other choice than to pay unjust prices or go without. This is the type of shit medieval feudal lords would pull when oppressing peasants. This type of behavior doesn’t belong in the 21st century.
This has been the true face of Nintendo all along…
Ferengi rules of acquisition.
- Once you have their money, you never give it back.
They’ve ALWAYS sucked but had a very friendly face. Remember how they tried to ban renting in North America? They failed to do so for games, but they got their filthy clutches on the manuals so game shops weren’t allowed to rent those out. They didn’t need to do that but they did just to make the experience a little bit worse for us consumers.
Having said that… The US kinda fucked up themselves, so I’m not sure why Nintendo is being singled out.
Nintendo is being singled out because they’re withholding the tariff refunds for tariffs they never paid and passed on to the customers. When the tariffs were imposed, no one really blamed Nintendo and knew it was the Administration’s fault. If Nintendo didn’t want sales to drop because of higher prices, they could have eaten the additional tariff cost until it all got sorted out. Had they done this, then they’d be entitled to that tariff refund money. Instead they passed on the tariff cost to customers, which sucks for customers but was really the only sensible thing Nintendo could have done given the circumstances, and most people aren’t really blaming Nintendo on that decision. But now Nintendo is trying to have it both ways, not pay any of the tariffs and keep all of the tariff refunds which is why they’re being singled out. It’s pure greed on their part with blatant disrespect to their customers.
Ok, but which other companies reimbursed the tarrif surcharges? Or did every other company eat the tarrif costs?
You’re right, i reread the article and it mentions similar lawsuits against Sony / Microsoft, so they all suck. I think the reason Nintendo is being singled out here is because there is not a lot of news with those other lawsuits, but with this one, Nintendo is trying to dismiss the case saying plaintiffs:
“received exactly what they paid for: Nintendo products that Plaintiffs knowingly and voluntarily purchased at the advertised price. Nor is there anything ‘unjust’ about Nintendo retaining money that it may receive from the government as tariff refunds. The fact that Nintendo stands to receive tariff refunds does not give Plaintiffs any legal entitlement to those funds.”
With Nintendo’s litigious history and them being the first to try to dismiss the case with this argument, they deserve the blowback they’re getting from their own customers.
Yeah I think I see what you mean. Their North American customers are like the most loyal of their base and they can’t even fucking throw them a bone. They’re not required to, but fucking come on.
But at the same time… People should not have have bought non essentials from a company with a history of fucking over their base. What the hell were they expecting? Companies look after one thing: the stock holders. They don’t give two shits about the customers as long as they can make them buy more shit.
because folks are bitter about they still charge $60 for a 10 year old game.
I’m not. I bought a switch 2 last month and Zelda BoTW for $70. It’s great. But what do I know, I’m a morally bankrupt bootlicker or something, because I was happy to spend my money on something that I am enjoying.
OK now divide the cost of the console over how many games you’ve bought
what? I literally just bought it 3 weeks ago. That number is going to be high because I only have 4 games.
I will buy more games as time goes by and that cost will go down. That’s how math works.
I also bought a PS5 four years ago, and only had a few games for it for the first few months… that’s how buying consoles/games works. Now I probably have like 50+ games for it, but it’s been years.
just my 2 cents: Nintendo did not raised the tariffs… and they neither profited on them…
But they did profit from the tariffs, as Nintendo gets the refunds but do not pass it on to the customers?
The alternative being… not paying and still getting it, Nintendo??
Or would you rather no one buy or play games from you? I stopped a long time ago.
Nintendo aren’t a good company but they no doubt lost sales due to the higher tariffs and I don’t really blame them.
My opinion the tariffs are the US’s own fault they shouldn’t have voted in a moron.
They also don’t know what the current US adminstration will do next. As soon as the tarrifs were struck down Trump implemented new ones. And the thing is that he wasn’t even given as much as a stern talking to for implementing these illegal world affecting tarrifs. In other nations these would have been career ending.
Its truly astonishing the vile depths that nintendo has sunken too over the past 15 years.
And they get away with it, because they have hundreds of millions of fanboys that couldnt give a shit about it, all they want is their next fix of mario and zelda, and will pay any price to get them.
My mother bought me an NES when I was a child, and shortly after Nintendo lowered the price and they voluntarily refunded her the difference.
She told me years later that secured her as a Nintendo customer for my games for life.
This greed is disgusting, but more than anything it’s depressing.
i think you mean the store she bought it from refunded you the difference.
many retail outlets have 30 day price guarantees, sometimes 90.
Nobody was buying NES systems direct from Nintendo.
back then they did, I doubt any have it now.
Hell, walmart wont even price match its own website… and like or hate walmart, thats the cheapest place in town to get shit so thats where most people, especially in this economy, will be shoppin.
Not only that, walmart won’t even do price adjustments anymore. they got rid of that about 3 or 4 years ago.
It used to be if you bought an item and the price fell within 14 days of purchase you could do a price adjustment on it. Now if you give the reason it’s cheaper as a reason for the return, they will refuse to do the exchange full stop.
it’s stupid because their return policy is still 90 days on most items, so you can just… return the item as a change mind, and then go and buy a brand new unopened one off the shelf for the reduced price… so not only are they out the money anyway but they also now have to sell or claims out a used product and are down a new unopened product ontop of it.
Amazon doesn’t do it anymore either, they used to offer price adjustments on anything within 30 days of purchase as long as you contact customer support. Now they force you to return the item and buy it again.
it’s not super common but a couple times a year i will buy something and the price drops a week or two later and you can contact them to get a gift card for the difference. you aren’t going to get in in cash or credit in 2026 though. it’s 30 days from date of purchase for all the places i have done this for.
giftcards arent refunds.
They are a marketing ploy to get you to come back and spend more money.
Yep. I’m just an idiot. It’s not like I’ll go back to the store ever again and I’m a regular customer.
They are clearly ENTRAPPING ME. Just like all the times I returned a product and they gave me a full refund, that was also total entrapment. Or when I returned a product for a warrenty fufillment and they replaced it, also entrapment.
He’s out of line, but he’s got a point
IMO I think it’s weird to focus specifically on Nintendo. The American government basically screwed over its populace and a ton of foreign companies (less sympathy for the former though). I don’t think it’s realistic to expect these companies to reimburse companies, because logistically it’d be a nightmare. The only way I can imagine consumers getting their money back is if the government used the tarrif money to pay a portion of the federal income tax for its citizens, ideally the lower tax vracket. Unfortunately that won’t happen.
lemmy seems to have a hard on for painting Nintendo particularly as this awful terrible corporation. Most likely because they are bitter they won’t lower their game prices. And they turn it into this weird moral issue and compare them to Steam as if Steam is the ‘good guy’ and Nintendo is the ‘bad guy’. it’s basically virtue signalling over consumer choice or something, instead of political issues. because only bad stupid people would ever own a switch or something.
I mean, cool. I don’t buy a lot of shit from a lot of companies because I also don’t find their pricing and business model appealing. But it’s not a moral issue in any way. There are far worse examples of course, too. Jeep makes objectively shitty cars for decades, but people keep buying them, and complaining about how they are shitty, for the lifestyle image/cool club they think owning a Jeep puts them in.
But you’re 100% right and basically no company is giving customers refunds over any of this because it’s already enough of a clusterfuck as it is to get their own refunds. But hey, let’s not let complex and costly reality get in the way of idealistic consumer entitlement over like $20 bucks, which even if they could give people the refunds, it probably would among to very little money. Even more hilarious is that folks who never bought the product still seem to think they should get a refund from Nintendo because they had a Gamecube 20 years ago.
“GUYS I DONT LIKE PEOPLE STANDING UP FOR THEMSELVES, WHY NINTENDO CUSTOMERS NOT BE LIKE OTHER CUSTOMERS AND NOT STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES!!!11!!!1!!”
yeah, your human rights are being violated, clearly.
meanwhile pharma companies are murdering people with drug costs, but this is where you draw the line. very brave and strong and smart!
Yes, because multiple things can’t be fought at once.
Big brain moment for you with that laughably pathetic attempt at a gotcha.
Americans getting utterly fleeced and it’s fucking hilarious.
americans voted for this. they wanted to be fleeced.
everyone told them tariffs were stupid, and they told those people to f off, they know better and Trump is a Really Smart Guy Who Knows What He Is Doing.
I play my Steam Deck more than I play my Switch 2.
Likewise. The Switch 2 is a very nice handheld, but it doesn’t hold a candle to having a never-locked-down x86 PC in your hands.
it also costs half as much as a steamdeck.
you’re comparing a Civic to a BMW3 series and asking why the Civic doesn’t have leather seats and a 5K audio system.
If you want to discuss prices, discuss them fully. The Deck is more expensive, but the games are cheaper. And the day I bought the Deck I already had a massive collection, with many more games added for free from epic, giveaways…
Depends on when you buy the game. New retail games on steam deck are still 50-60 bucks.
I can also find massive discounts on digital games on switch. I just bought like a bunch of $5 or less games on the last eshop sale.
Does Zelda and Mario go on sale for $5? No. They go on sale for like $30-40. I also just bought Mario Odsyessy for $40.
I’m happy to pay these prices. Cool if you are not? Lots of people buy shit I would never spend my money on. I haven’t bought a gaming PC in 15 years, because it me it seems like a huge waste of money and time.
Almost as if other people have different preferences, and priorities than you do? And they are happy to buy products you are not.
Well, it does NOW. At the prices I paid the Steam Deck was only a bit more.
cool, and a few years ago you could get a switch lite for $200. still can, in fact.
