NOTE: I am NOT defending AI or it’s usage or anything like that. So just tie that horse right back up at the kitchen sink. I don’t like the whole AI thing. This post is not about AI.
I get that it was necessary at first, but now whenever there’s any hint of AI, there’s a great chorus of everyone saying the same thing ‘AI slop bla bla bla’ like a gaggle of sheep jerking their knees.
It’s not fucking helpful. It only sows even more division among the peasants, while the oligarchs take zero notice and continue on as usual. The correct way to engage with AI content you don’t like is just not at all.
Examples:
Recently I watched as a post for a community event was removed, because it had an AI image. The image was not requested or created by the organiser, it was provided to them, and had information in several languages. But the post was removed because AI slop and now there is less human connection happening. Yay. Well fucking done. You literally are helping the AI overlords now.
I’ve seen many actual legit digital artists getting hit with the cries of AI slop and even banned, when they have been making art for years before AI was even a thing. People actually can’t tell the difference half the time when they think they can, and end up hurting real artists.
Now is not the time to be attacking each other over using AI to generate some stupid meme. There are much, MUCH bigger issues at stake right now, and calling everything AI slop does nothing to help.
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I dislike it too, but I strongly disagree, ai slop is much worse and you have to be loud because of how strongly it is forced upon us.
Be loud about why it’s bad
This particular opinion is popular with me, only because one of the things that got SO tiring on reddit was scrolling past all the FAAAAAKE FFFFEEEEAAAAAAAKKKKKEEEE FAKE AKF EKA FKEF FEEEAAAAKKKEEE comments on any submission that happened before AI, or SCRIPTEDDDDDDDD on any video that might be a sketch or might even be legit. Those people now stroke their genitals while posting AAAAAAIIIIIII SSSSLLLLOOOPPPPPPPPPP.
So either it is these things or it isn’t, but S H U T T H E F U C K U P . Jesus fucking christ.
That said, AI slop sucks.
Truly an unpopular opinion.
Fuck AI and everybody using it
If we cannot stop the infighting, the machines have already won.
Feels like MLK’s quote fits right here
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
We do need tension, but not between us peasants, it needs to be between us and legislators/oligarchs.
Anyone can post Ai slop by accident. It’s how you handle it. And if you do it on purpose, you know what side you’re on. I’m fine with people acknowledging that they used something they didn’t intent to.
Ok, but you’re saying AI is a problem, but we shouldn’t call it out along with other issues? Nah, we’ll call out whats slop: slop.
Overall you’re saying it’s not actually about AI but it’s literally feeling pro ai, and none of us are conformists, especially when it comes from horrendous shit/actions to individual instigators.
Well you could instead say something like, “You shouldn’t use AI for images, it massively harms the environment and has a huge societal cost that we will all pay.” Engage with the person, not the content. That’s far more effective.
Thanks for this honeypot. Lots of great assholes to block in the comments.
nah, fuck ai and anyone who uses it
If we cannot stop the infighting, the machines have already won.
Upvoted for very unpopular opinion.
Yes, let’s just ignore all the bad things happening around us. Great idea.
Not ignore, find better ways to deal with it.
Well you could instead say something like, “You shouldn’t use AI for images, it massively harms the environment and has a huge societal cost that we will all pay.”
Engage with the person, not the content. That’s far more effective.
Yeah, but then how people here or on Reddit would feel special?
It’s a dangerous trap to fall into
dont blame the anti-slop crowd for the problems created by the stupid jerks destroying our only livable planet for profit
it’s OUR fault that the dogshit that is getting plastered everywhere is causing a backlash?
unpopular for sure, despite its thoughtlessness, have an upvote
You’ve missed the point of the post.
Posting ai in the first place is retarded
The last one I saw made me cringe so hard I needed reconstructive surgery.
It was of a woman on a bed reading the bible to her kids while shielding them from the trans rainbow.
Yeah, I know, it hurts, I hope you have cheap medical care.
Not calling it out is akin to not calling out anything else unethical.
See a parent hitting their child? Shut up and move along.
AI data center being built in your neighbourhood? SHUT UP, JUST DONT USE IT.
Someone littering on your street? Stop whinging, just ignore it and it will eventually blow in to the ocean - all good!
If no one speaks up, then it just gets worse. Protest is fundamental to pushing back against the horse shit that corpos try and push down our throats every day. Someone less informed may take the lack of negative comments towards AI slop as it being OK and normal when it clearly isnt, therefore adding to the problem.
Hard disagree with your opinion and I think it comes across as corpo cuckery so you get an upvote I guess.
Well you could instead say something like, “You shouldn’t use AI for images, it massively harms the environment and has a huge societal cost that we will all pay.”
Engage with the person, not the content. That’s far more effective.
Your disclaimer is false. You said the post isn’t about AI but it’s entirely about AI. Because look, we all know that there’s a backlash against AI. We all know that if you’re planning an event, you probably shouldn’t use AI if you aren’t ready to piss off people who don’t like it… That’s the reality. Now, you could wish that reality were different, but it’s not a big burden to say hey, don’t have AI make the poster, just make it yourself. It’s really not that hard.
Now, you also mentioned people who were accused of using AI when they didn’t. Of course, that’s not cool… But this is not a problem of reactions to AI. It’s a problem of not fact checking. And if you came here telling us that people should fact-check better, or properly, than I think everyone would agree with you.
In summary, I think your post does the opposite of what you claim you want it to do. You don’t want people to be divisive, but you’ve intentionally created a divisive set of guidelines. And then you’ve told people to shut up but you know they’re not going to which means you’re just looking for an argument… I guess this entire strategy bores me.
But you posted in the right place, so it’s all good.
It’s not about AI, it’s about people’s reactions to AI slop.
Now, you could wish that reality were different, but it’s not a big burden to say hey, don’t have AI make the poster, just make it yourself. It’s really not that hard.
What the flog is wrong with having AI make a poster as long as it’s reasonably clean, professional, and free of slop content? Indeed, much of what AI can do in those situations is little more than automation acting on PhotoShop-like sets of tools.
Make all the AI content you want, says I, but here’s a tip-- don’t make it obvious that AI was used in its production. Bam, problem solved.
If it uses one of the online services, then it’s a problem (environment, water etc).
You could somewhat make that argument for local models. But not many people are going to have any conception of that
Metrics are needed. Based on an article that Rimu shared a few days ago, I didn’t get the impression that stuff like simple graphics work needed for a poster particularly added much strain.
There’s also the simple fact that it’s too late to be herding cats on this one. Most people who’ve gotten used to using AI for various tasks aren’t going to give it up very easily. While I agree that it can be useful to talk up and spread the word about the destructiveness of AI costs, that energy and pressure ultimately needs to be funneled to lawmakers in order to draft and pass appropriate legislation.
that energy and pressure ultimately needs to be funneled to lawmakers in order to draft and pass appropriate legislation.
100% agree
Now if you could put that in to your own words…
but it’s not a big burden to say hey, don’t have AI make the poster, just make it yourself. It’s really not that hard.
Maybe not, but it doesn’t feel great when people think they can push you around like that. “Just comply with our demands, it’s easy” is exactly the kind of attitude that makes it even more intolerable.
Yeah that’s how a society works, so are you gonna cut yourself off and live off the land in a cabin in the woods where no one can tell you what you have to do or are you going to continue to comply with society’s demands in order to reap it’s benefits?
Going for a mix of strategic isolation and speaking out against smug mob rule bullies personally. The existence of rules is one thing, but when it’s both about micromanaging the arguably innocuous use of information processing tools, and enforced in the most obnoxious way possible, that seems like the right hill to take a stand on.
