• MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    27 minutes ago

    Shun it and have a population of people who can solve their own problems. Use it and gain a population that give of even basic decision making skills.

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      2 hours ago

      And the EU has its own domestic AI, including Mistral which is one of the big ones. Not an AI fan myself but this is clearly nonsense

      • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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        1 hour ago

        And even if they didn’t AI is rapidly becoming a generic commodity. Just build a datacenter and plug in an off-the-shelf LLM. There’s nothing to really catch up on other than infrastructure, which will be radically cheaper when the bubble pops. There is no crucial or indispensible IP for countries or even companies to own.

        Given the current inflated costs (and the energy crisis), the best thing to do is wait until this shakes out and build in the future with a clearer understanding of the destination.

        • Joe@discuss.tchncs.de
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          infrastructure, which will be radically cheaper when the bubble pops

          I wouldn’t count on that unless the popping sound is nuclear. Demand for AI is not going anywhere, even when companies fail and investors lose out.

          What will improve prices for everyone is better algorithms and more efficient chips for them, helping supply to catch up with demand.

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    5 hours ago

    Shun the technology and lose out on growth feel the JOMO (Joy of Missing Out).

    There, fixed it for you.

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      8 hours ago

      Then you have either literally not even tried to look, or are objectively ignoring reality in favor of personal biases and possibly xenophobia.

      There’s plenty of issues, water problems, power problems, ethical concerns, etc.

      But claiming there’s been no productivity, growth or progress caused by LLM technology is objectively wrong.

      It’s like claiming that nuclear research brought zero benefits just because you disagree with nukes.

      It’s objectively on every level, retarded as fuck.

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        2 hours ago

        I agree with your point but “xenophobia”? Come on man, what are you smoking? Also loads of people just don’t have a day-to-day use case for LLM’s, doesn’t make them stupid/retarded for never seeing any upside and only see the downsides. Explaining what you use it for and its pros is a much better argument

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      10 hours ago

      I know I’m going to catch flak for it, but I definitely see use cases where LLMs (AI hasn’t been invented yet) do increase productivity. All my devs use them for their daily work and haven’t once questioned that it’s useful. However, they know when to use LLMs and when not too. That is definitely not the case for the general populace and is further accentuated by big tech unnecessarily cramming that stuff in everything. That’s what’s creating an ecological and societal issue that’s rightfully driving the negative sentiments

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        Apparently you don’t follow the news about software vulnerabilities. Since LLMs started replacing coders the number has skyrocketed. I’ve also seen more consumers abstaining from online platforms than ever because they know, they don’t think they know, that sloppers such as yourself will not hesitate to sell off their face and identity to Peter Theil the billionnaire nazi.

        AI doesn’t have a use case aside from disinformation, it’s a net negative on society by a lot.

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          There are responsible and irresponsible ways to use LLMs to code. Of course, the irresponsible ways are also the cheapest. Your problem is with short sighted profit-maximizing capitalism, not LLMs.

      • Naich@piefed.world
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        9 hours ago

        An LLM is basically a glorified autocomplete. Ideal for writing standard code blocks and automating repetitive tasks. It’s a bit like getting a trainee to bash out stuff that doesn’t require much thought. Using it to write your entire codebase and calling it “vibe coding” is like getting a trainee to write your entire codebase.

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    11 hours ago

    The title doesn’t make much sense so I haven’t read the article. No, experimenting with LLMs/“AI” doesn’t automatically make you “dependent on US/China tools”. The same way as drawing cats doesn’t make you a Egypt colony.

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      10 hours ago

      Ya, I had the same reaction. Shunning it would be likelier to lead to dependence on a foreign solution as well.

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    11 hours ago

    Europe being “absent” from the AI safety debate may be the feature, not the bug. While Silicon Valley debates whether its own products could end humanity, Europe is asking the less cinematic question: why should our infrastructure, data and economy depend on a handful of US firms? Safety without sovereignty is just dependency with better paperwork.