I’d see that tweet and say a broken clock is right twice a day.
Its not a perfect solution, but its a manageable step in the right direction that immediately benefits workers following a path of least resistance.
The perfect solution is to banish tipping and force employers to pay more. The reality of doing that, in an unguided way, is that Lyft/Uber would either pull out of NYC or find loopholes to stiff the worker. Forcing higher tip options is a quick solution, that’s easily implementable and enforcable, as a greater coalition builds of people believing in the government there will be less resistance to perfect solutions.
But for now, something that tangibly benefits workers is a good thing, and it certainly isn’t a bad thing.
which would be a great thing tbh, but they would never pull out of such a big city. you could probably force them do double every salary overnight and they would still be able to afford it.
you could probably force them do double every salary overnight and they would still be able to afford it.
They’d crank the prices up for the end user, and make it very clear that it’s Mamdani’s fault your ride home from the club is 3x what it usually is (because you know they would increase it more than they actually need).
They’d just leave the city because it would become unprofitable.
It would need to be subsidized somehow if you want drivers to make a living wage while also implementing price controls and eliminating tipping. At that point, just have it be a city-owned public service.
Turns out that it costs a lot of money to transport people around for a living wage.
Who said anything about making it unprofitable? It would merely be less profitable, and they won’t leave over that. They can still make a huge amount of profit from volume.
This idea that we are at the mercy of private businesses and there’s nothing we can do to control them needs to die.
They’re also large enough that they could pull out of NYC with a note/call to action on their app bashing Mandami, “Mayor Mandami has passed a law that makes operations unsustainable in NYC. This unrealistic expectation jeopardizes the livelihoods of thousands of drivers and their families in NYC. Please write Mayor Mandami and demand that he repeals Law 863 and restore the jobs of thousands of people. Until then we cannot offer you a ride within NYC limits. Good luck!”
They could simultaneously pay their drivers to protest city hall.
They have the ability to create a protest that would cause most politicians to cave. I don’t know if Mandami would cave, but it certainly would hurt his image - and thus hurt the image of all Democratic Socialists and similar progressive movements.
Conservatism cares a lot about people having jobs. Not about whether they are paid living wages.
i don’t know if mamdani alone does, but point is their profits are huge and they could bring prices down or salaries up if they wanted (or were forced) to.
To be clear though, my argument has nothing to do with the feasibility or responsibility of the government to regulate Lyft/Uber into paying living wages.
My argument is that Mandami is building a movement/coalition through paths of least resistance and sweeping incremental changes as opposed to highly targeted legislative changes.
Biden did wipe out student debt, but because the courts were packed, his efforts were nullified. Had the groundwork been laid first (replacing the courts) then this life changing legislation would have passed. In order to replace the courts, there would need to be a coalition built supporting the change. It’s great to shoot for the moon, but if our progressive spaceship blows up on the way to the moon, our progressive politicians will have a track record of getting nothing accomplished - just like the lazy sacks of shit that are the true enemies of the state: Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, etc.
If we want the moon, and we deserve the moon, then we need to be OK with taking the path of least resistance, getting the easy wins, and building a coalition.
They wouldn’t even need to pull out, they’d pass the increase in costs to the consumers (the riders), and they’ll make it very clear that it’s Mamdani’s fault their ride is so expensive now.
I’d see that tweet and say a broken clock is right twice a day.
Its not a perfect solution, but its a manageable step in the right direction that immediately benefits workers following a path of least resistance.
The perfect solution is to banish tipping and force employers to pay more. The reality of doing that, in an unguided way, is that Lyft/Uber would either pull out of NYC or find loopholes to stiff the worker. Forcing higher tip options is a quick solution, that’s easily implementable and enforcable, as a greater coalition builds of people believing in the government there will be less resistance to perfect solutions.
But for now, something that tangibly benefits workers is a good thing, and it certainly isn’t a bad thing.
which would be a great thing tbh, but they would never pull out of such a big city. you could probably force them do double every salary overnight and they would still be able to afford it.
They’d crank the prices up for the end user, and make it very clear that it’s Mamdani’s fault your ride home from the club is 3x what it usually is (because you know they would increase it more than they actually need).
How do you think that would work out for Zohran?
Price controls.
They’d just leave the city because it would become unprofitable.
It would need to be subsidized somehow if you want drivers to make a living wage while also implementing price controls and eliminating tipping. At that point, just have it be a city-owned public service.
Turns out that it costs a lot of money to transport people around for a living wage.
my point is that it wouldn’t. their profit rates are astronomical.
Who said anything about making it unprofitable? It would merely be less profitable, and they won’t leave over that. They can still make a huge amount of profit from volume.
This idea that we are at the mercy of private businesses and there’s nothing we can do to control them needs to die.
They’re also large enough that they could pull out of NYC with a note/call to action on their app bashing Mandami, “Mayor Mandami has passed a law that makes operations unsustainable in NYC. This unrealistic expectation jeopardizes the livelihoods of thousands of drivers and their families in NYC. Please write Mayor Mandami and demand that he repeals Law 863 and restore the jobs of thousands of people. Until then we cannot offer you a ride within NYC limits. Good luck!”
They could simultaneously pay their drivers to protest city hall.
They have the ability to create a protest that would cause most politicians to cave. I don’t know if Mandami would cave, but it certainly would hurt his image - and thus hurt the image of all Democratic Socialists and similar progressive movements.
Conservatism cares a lot about people having jobs. Not about whether they are paid living wages.
the state has the power to suppress that.
i don’t know if mamdani alone does, but point is their profits are huge and they could bring prices down or salaries up if they wanted (or were forced) to.
The state has the power to suppress what?
To be clear though, my argument has nothing to do with the feasibility or responsibility of the government to regulate Lyft/Uber into paying living wages.
My argument is that Mandami is building a movement/coalition through paths of least resistance and sweeping incremental changes as opposed to highly targeted legislative changes.
Biden did wipe out student debt, but because the courts were packed, his efforts were nullified. Had the groundwork been laid first (replacing the courts) then this life changing legislation would have passed. In order to replace the courts, there would need to be a coalition built supporting the change. It’s great to shoot for the moon, but if our progressive spaceship blows up on the way to the moon, our progressive politicians will have a track record of getting nothing accomplished - just like the lazy sacks of shit that are the true enemies of the state: Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, etc.
If we want the moon, and we deserve the moon, then we need to be OK with taking the path of least resistance, getting the easy wins, and building a coalition.
i mean yeah, mamdani is a socdem.
Got it. Youre on the all or nothing boat to hell for everyone.
not really. i was literally agreeing with you, plus explaining it.
Oh sorry, I didn’t understand your last comment and assumed. Guess it made an ass of me.
They wouldn’t even need to pull out, they’d pass the increase in costs to the consumers (the riders), and they’ll make it very clear that it’s Mamdani’s fault their ride is so expensive now.