I had a report for AI slop today. 1m LOC in 3 months. How do you even modify and distribute that? I do not think we had a rule against it.

IMHO if we allow, the community gets drowned out by AI vomit and it is harder to see handcrafted loved projects that are easy to modify and distribute.

My mind is to ban it to preserve open source.

Are folk in agreememt with this line? Would love to hear your thoughts.

  • jaygray91@piefed.zip
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    1 hour ago

    At the very least have the post author mark it as having AI involvement. Idk if there’s an equivalent to reddit automoderator but any new app sharing post should be autoreplied by the automod to mark AI involvement.

    Or some kind of tagging.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 hours ago

    yes to a ban, these projects are worthless to most but their authors. and good for them, but they can keep their trash for themselves.

    like 95% of new foss projects i see pop up are heavily ai-generated, and often in very unsubtle ways (line half the commits being “co-authored by” claude, that sort of thing)

    it would be nice to have a community where we can share and discuss projects made by humans, so they don’t drown in the llm bile

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    6 hours ago

    I strongly disagree with this. The reality is that using LLMs to build things is becoming increasingly more common. And just because something is built using LLMs doesn’t automatically make it slop or useless. There are plenty of genuinely useful open source projects built with these tools, and just because you’re personally opposed to that is not a reason to ban them outright.

    This is why we have the voting system on Lemmy as well. If people post slop whether it’s human or LLM assisted, then it can get downvoted naturally. I also see zero evidence of this community drowning in any sort of slop.

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    7 hours ago

    For me the most important thing is that something is free software. I’ve seen people advertise proprietary stuff in this community and have reported it, and nothing has been done. I don’t know if that means my reports don’t federate properly or if it’s tacitly approved by the moderators. I know in the degoogle community there are "trusted’ proprietary apps that are often recommended but this should not be the case in a free software or open source community. In any case, any rule that bans “AI slop” while allowing proprietary products is in my mind backwards.

    Regarding “AI slop” I am generally in agreement with Codeberg’s policy which states,

    You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by “generative AI”-tools (including services such as Claude, OpenAI Codex).

    I suppose “mostly” is up to interpretation but for me this specifically targets vibecoded apps where there is no or very minimal human involvement. This may be heterodoxy but I actually don’t think “an otherwise human-written codebase with a single line of LLM code” is the same thing as an entirely LLM generated codebase. I think there’s room for nuance especially if the usage is disclosed (I don’t think punishing transparency should be encouraged).

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    7 hours ago

    We allow it on our large subreddits on reddit. What we do is use a bot to filter repos that are less than 3 months old.

    People who vibe code slop just want to share their thing and then abandon it. A limit like that or even 6 months will kill majority of this sort of low effort crap. Most of these people just let Claude or whatever sign the repo as well, another easy way to catch slop.

    Developers that develop and only use AI as a tool build great products still as they review all their code.

    A blanket ban is just going to make people be more sneaky.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 hours ago

    I think there are multiple reasons to ban AI slop. One is that it can push out and dilute human-made content.

    Another is that AI use is very resource intensive in an age that we’re facing an accelerating climate crisis. Speaking of which, we’re expecting a pretty extreme El Niño season this year.

    Another is that AI companies are lobbying the US federal government in bad faith (up to and including the current discussions of slowdown), and really don’t deserve any support or patronage.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      I don’t know if you were aware, but burgerland doesn’t have a monopoly on LLM development. And nowadays there are competent models you can even run locally that work just fine for coding.

      This whole trope that AI is very resource intensive is completely outdated, while people like you just keep parroting it uncritically. You’re certainly not going to be solving extreme climate change by banning LLM assisted code on a niche community. This is the most lib brained take ever.

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      What is fully human written and how are you as a human(I assume) able to distinguish between what is laboriously typed and what is generated, here lets try this exercise and see if you can spot any difference Here is a code I have typed by hand

      "smash":
              push    rbp
              mov     rbp, rsp
              call    "smash"
              pop     rbp
              ret
      

      and here is machine generated code with the prompt, the slop machine used here is a compiler

      GCC take this C code void smash(){smash();} and make it executable and here is the output

      "smash":
              push    rbp
              mov     rbp, rsp
              call    "smash"
              nop
              pop     rbp
              ret
      
      spoiler

      please dont take this seriously

  • moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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    8 hours ago

    Maybe someone should open a ticket with Lemmy devs to add a user side option for “show ai” next to “show nsfw”.

    I don’t block nsfw, but I do block image posts. I’d love to be able to wholesale block all AI tagged posts too.

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    9 hours ago

    My mind is to ban it to preserve open source.

    You will be preserving it alright, but not progressing it in anyway; A blanket ban wont really solve anything, a more sophisticated system would be a pinned comment warning of AI use, which you should eventually rescind if the author proves they have not abandoned the project when their tokens ran out

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    11 hours ago

    Yes please, I’m so tired of seing AI crap projects that will be abandonned in a few months…