‘left-wing’ Bernie named what the problem was with starting an illegal unprovoked war on Iran and murdering 1000’s of people including children:
High gas prices and putting american troops in danger.He’s as disgusting as the rest of them
To their credit, it’s a long walk to Gaza to form a human chain around it.
This is easier.Lots of us care about a wide variety of things. It’s usually not helpful to judge others so flippantly for what they speak out for when it’s something positive.
Let’s just start by recognizing that this is a fucking exhausting time to be alive if you care about other people, the environment, the climate, or anything else we should be focusing on taking care of. Every day I fall down the doom spiral of bad news. It’s so dismal, and there’s only so much any individual can do about the giant flaming tire fire that is the state of current affairs.
The arts have been an important part of human culture since we stopped merely surviving and started building societies. Probably before that. The Kennedy Center has been a focal point for artists standing up against Trump, and I fully support anyone involved. Fascism targets art and culture for a reason, and we need to fight them on any and all fronts we can.
I can’t believe I have to defend people literally putting their bodies on the line to fight against Trump. Saturn devouring his child.
this is why america is the problem , don’t look inside the empire for a solution to the empire
Downvoters don’t understand why it’s ok to be mocking protestors for being so boujie that they’ll do more for a massive multi-million-dollar institution than they will for immigrants, child separation, racial mass incarceration, Palestinian victims of genocide, other indigenous communities destroyed by the West, or even children in Flint being poisoned by city water.
What a fallacious take. They’re not protesting the ability to go to “boujie” shows. They’re protesting the silencing of artists and standing up for art in general. Historically, fascists attack the arts to hurt our ability to dissent and unite as a community. Seems like an important thing to do in the US right now.
Couldn’t shut down a weapons factory? An ICE prison? Literally anything that would effect profits or death. But we can defend an art museum with our bodies?
Please. I love the fact that people are learning how to organize but it is completely valid criticism that Americans have their priorities inverted.
Even your defense is inverted. You are claiming that the symbolic fascism is important to fight and completely ignore the actual fascism happening daily. Shut down the fucking court system. Shut down police stations. Shut down banks. Shut down factories. Shut down ports. No no, an art museum is just as important because fascists, while also imprisoning black people and killing immigrants ALSO go after the arts?
Just a totally limp take.
That’s the fun thing, I don’t disagree with any of your suggestions. I actively want these things to be happening, and I participate as much as possible when my community engages in these types of actions.
You’re comparing apples to oranges, though. Protesting and circling hands around an art center doesn’t come with the same risks or active threats. You’re asking why people aren’t doing this around ICE detention centers when the answer is clear. People have been killed and jailed indefinitely for doing so in the recent past. Not everyone willing to make the same sacrifice, and I’m not in a position to blame them.
I want people engaged, to whatever their entry points are. Let me know when you are gaming to shut down a municions factory, though. I’ll be there.
Yeah, we agree that raising consciousness is good. And as much as it hurts people’s feelings, mockery and criticism are part of the process
What a shit take. You don’t build community by starting with mockery, criticism, and/or the other tropey bro initiation bullshit.
You either want to help or you don’t. The way you act is dictated by that. Life isn’t some memelord shower conversation.
I’m not trying to build community with the people who think symbolic arts institutions named after presidents who perpetuated US imperial dominance is worth their time. I am trying to build community with people who are propagating a more accurate analysis of power in an effort to ensure that those people have something that will help them orient when they inevitably burnout on their ineffective path.
And if life isn’t about memes, someone should tell the propagandists of the last 75 years that despite all their success they’re doing it wrong according to you.
It’s about what you’re willing to set your foot down for. Such many Americans choosing this as their red line says so much.
Yeah, you addressed nothing about my point about the value about the arts.
Also, how is this a red line regarding the Kennedy Center? Americans have been rightfully protesting about all kinds of things, including the genocide in Gaza. Were those red lines, too?
It’s normal to care about and participate in multiple things at the same time.
Wow, you completely edited your initial post to make the person that replied to you look like an asshole…
My post is unedited?
Did that uhhh do anything? That was an individual action not a collective.
At least link the hero who neutralized two Israeli embassy workers
Did the Kennedy Center protest uhhh do anything? I drive past Gaza protesters all the time, people are constantly bringing it up in the news. What point are you making?
Yes people are physically blocking off an entire large property.
“Yesterday I went to a restaurant, there was an error in the bill, so I complained to the waiter“ “Yeah, but you didn’t complain as loud about Palestine did you? “ “Jesus, it’s terrible hot outside!” “It may be hot outside, but the situation in Palestine is even more unbearable.”
- I’m all in favor of the poor people living in Gaza, and I reject what Israel is doing against the Palestinian population. But this Palestine whataboutery has to stop; tying every protest immediately to the Palestinian cause doesn’t help anyone.
Shut the fuck up you Nazi piece of shit
Blocked!
Lol you don’t need to announce it
This specific instance protecting some ‘american cultural’ institution is pretty funny though
