It’s predatory to allow teens to sign these things without fully explaining them and ensuring they understand.
It’s not taught at all in grade school, no one tells them about interest rates, or amortization tables or how to pay extra toward the principal, or that their wages will be garnished if they don’t pay, or if they get married, then their spouse’s wages might be garnished without warning, and so on… It’s just, “sign here, and we’ll give you the money.”
It’s actually just scummy and predatory period. Student loans shouldn’t be a thing. Imagine wanting to devote your life to helping people, becoming a doctor in a country that has a terrible shortage of doctors (And it very much does)But oh no! some crazy shit happens, and you’re not able to complete your degree. Guess what? Big government says “fuck you. How dare you have some crazy bullshit happen to you? You’re entire financial future is fucked up for your whole life now. Goodbye.”
How in the fuck can a better educated people be worse for society? How in the fuck could you ever make the case that it’s bad to have more people trained in medicine? Why would you ever punish and disincentivize behavior that’s good for society?? How in the ever loving fuck does that make sense??
Often enough, even with the degree, you can end up no better off for some time. If you don’t get a degree and make x/yr, or you get the degree, spend 6~8 years in school and looking for a position that pays 2x/yr but you spend half of the money on paying down your debt for 20 years… That’s a long time to get back into the black, assuming you even went for a degree leading to a position that will pay that much. It is almost criminal that a credit hour learning to work on machine learning systems often has the same cost as one spent learning about art history. Both are valuable to society in their own ways, but they definitely won’t get you the same paycheck, and the cost of entry should reflect that.
Pays for a house and kids. I wasn’t able to finish and with the kinds of jobs I can get I can’t afford a car and struggle with bills even with frugal spending. Even the traded require postsecondary training you usuially gotta pay for
It’s predatory to allow teens to sign these things without fully explaining them and ensuring they understand.
It’s not taught at all in grade school, no one tells them about interest rates, or amortization tables or how to pay extra toward the principal, or that their wages will be garnished if they don’t pay, or if they get married, then their spouse’s wages might be garnished without warning, and so on… It’s just, “sign here, and we’ll give you the money.”
It’s actually just scummy and predatory period. Student loans shouldn’t be a thing. Imagine wanting to devote your life to helping people, becoming a doctor in a country that has a terrible shortage of doctors (And it very much does)But oh no! some crazy shit happens, and you’re not able to complete your degree. Guess what? Big government says “fuck you. How dare you have some crazy bullshit happen to you? You’re entire financial future is fucked up for your whole life now. Goodbye.”
How in the fuck can a better educated people be worse for society? How in the fuck could you ever make the case that it’s bad to have more people trained in medicine? Why would you ever punish and disincentivize behavior that’s good for society?? How in the ever loving fuck does that make sense??
FUCK THIS COUNTRY
The thing is, I understood perfectly I was getting fucked, it’s just that without a degree you can’t get a good job. That’s the most predatory part
Often enough, even with the degree, you can end up no better off for some time. If you don’t get a degree and make x/yr, or you get the degree, spend 6~8 years in school and looking for a position that pays 2x/yr but you spend half of the money on paying down your debt for 20 years… That’s a long time to get back into the black, assuming you even went for a degree leading to a position that will pay that much. It is almost criminal that a credit hour learning to work on machine learning systems often has the same cost as one spent learning about art history. Both are valuable to society in their own ways, but they definitely won’t get you the same paycheck, and the cost of entry should reflect that.
What do you consider good job?
Pays for a house and kids. I wasn’t able to finish and with the kinds of jobs I can get I can’t afford a car and struggle with bills even with frugal spending. Even the traded require postsecondary training you usuially gotta pay for
We 100% did learn about amortization in high school math, no idea if it’s still taught though
It is. Actually my daughter learned it in middle school (7-8th grades). Not that people have many other choices for college cash.
Also, they make loans standard so they can charge more for the services.