Alright I got somewhere. It’s the DNS. Specifically my Adguard Home setup. By default it uses rate limiting of 20 requests per client. I removed it. And now Firefox is loading as fast as Brave was loading it previously.

Although websites on Brave are still loading much faster, Firefox is now pretty usable. A few hundred ms difference is fine for me. The slowdown started happening since Firefox 150ish so probably something changed then that affected Firefox but Chromium based browsers worked fine. IDK what but for now removing rate limiting works for me. Hopefully my router won’t crash because of this. Thanks for the help. Also if I use Firefox DoH with custom Controld endpoint, everything loads at lightening speed. But I can’t use it as there are DNS rewrites in my Adguard Home which allows me to access my services w/o typing the IP all the time.

Sorry I was out for a vacation. Here you go.

This is firefox

This is Brave origin.

Even though some things do load after 5s in brave as well, a website is instantly usable on Brave while Firefox takes the whole time to load it. The Firefox install above is a fresh one with just uBlock Origin. On Brave I have set it up to clear cache and browsing history on exit so nothing is being loaded from cache. No login used for the website tested in both browsers. On reddit as well usually, it takes Firefox around 12s to actually for it to be usable. While for Brave it is usually around 8s.

I tried literally everything (troubleshooting mode, uninstall all extensions, use the default state on a new profile, use the default state on a fresh install, use arkenfox user.js, etc) before installing brave origin. Even tried Librewolf. But seems like a Gecko issue for me. I was later told to diagnose what is slowing it down using the network tab but I had already switched by then and didn’t want to troubleshoot anymore when Brave Origin works flawlessly for me.

Also on Android I don’t need any plugins other than an ad-blocker which brave has built in. Only downside to Brave is that I have to turn off their Crypto bullshit. So yeah brave ticks all the boxes for me currently.

Agreed and upvoted but the browser is good. It works better than pretty much anything out there especially on android. Firefox for me is getting slower on desktop for some reason. Websites take a lot of time to load.

What’s wrong with brave?

Ooohh, don’t think corpos and banks won’t go for that hypothetical. A lot of apps already turn haywire if you have developer options enabled, accessibility options enabled, have a specific installed or using a custom ROM. If the optional attestation is enforced by your bank that they only accept passkeys from google’s password manager or apple passwords, then using something like Keepass or Bitwarden isn’t an option.

Look… I love passkeys. They are convenient and more secure. But if a service cares about on what device and software it was created then it is pointless and just an ecosystem lockdown mechanism.

You don’t know Indian small-mid businesses lol. They already pirate a lot of stuff. Adobe and Corel are very strict here—if they find out you are using an unlicensed version of their software, they send legal notices to pay a shit ton for the damages and buy the licensed one for a lock-in period before even suing. Most, if not all, give in because there is no way out of this. Yet a lot of them are willing to take this risk as the potential savings are much higher than the losses if caught.

If these businesses get a grey zone free product, they will happily switch. Big corpos will mostly not.

If it comes at parity and businesses start using it, then not only it would be banned but also the dev will be sued to hell for “infringing” their “patents” and “revenue loss” caused because of it.

Why doesn’t the dev rather work on specific features sets on one existing project instead of building half baked fleet of slop.

Bitwarden’s front-end (Apps, Extensions) must be hard forked before it is too late.

Literally all websites are slower NGL. I wish that wasn’t happening but it is since the last few months and doesn’t seem to be getting better. I can’t use it in this state. I tried to find what’s wrong—using it in default state, disable and enable ipv6, enable and disable DoH, change my router DNS, change my Laptop DNS, Enable and Disable Extensions, Disable and Enable HW Acceleration, use various user.js (betterfox and arkenfox both), reinstalled Firefox with a fresh profile—but it’s still happening. I tried Librewolf as well and still the same issue. I can’t even submit an issue because there is nothing conclusive of what’s happening here. The only thing that is left is to reinstall the OS on both my systems. Switching to Brave Origin is much easier and fixes all the issues for me. So as much as I would like to use Firefox (because I love everything about it and want to support something other than chromium), it not usable for me especially when I have a relatively fast internet (250mbps) and strong and recent hardware.

I was using Firefox for 5 years and lately since few months, sites load terribly slower than on Brave Origin or Vanilla Chromium in Arch Linux for me atleast. A website that loads instantly on Brave takes like 5-10s on Firefox.

I tried reinstalling Firefox, tried a very fresh install w/o any extensions or my bookmarks but it still felt very slow on two different devices and networks as well. Tried disabling ipv6—which improved the loading speeds by about 1-2s. But then I pulled the plug and completely switched to Brave Origin. TBH I love it. It’s snappy AF. Has none of Vanilla Bravd BS and has an adblocker as strong UBO.