I’m not sure if you’ll get this reply @[email protected], but here’s the link visible from Lemmy itself: https://tuta.com/blog/digital-fingerprinting-worse-than-cookies.
Your method of accessing this Lemmy community seems not to be working on your side somehow. You might try a different app - I’ve never used Mastodon so I don’t know what might work.
You are a treasure to have on the Fediverse, we are fortunate to have you helping so much:-).
I dunno. It’s missing:
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So here’s another version:
Oh wait no, it has a vegetable in it, gotta throw that out then and we’ll stick with the OP!:-)
Or here’s a version with tanks and french fries?
Oh wow thank you. I have definitely tried that before and it failed, but probably there are certain conditions that needed to have been met first, like perhaps the post must already be there and/or the community already have started federating. So this feature definitely would have fallen between the cracks of knowledge for me if you hadn’t said so.:-)
Ah, even the older ones? Nice!:-)
Except it looks like it won’t ever retrieve the comments for them, boo:-(. e.g. I was going to respond to a comment by [email protected] with how “no man can defeat me” for their #1 list item, but I cannot (with a DO account) b/c there are no comments federated from https://discuss.online/post/14197685.
Though at least posts are coming in, now that I’ve subscribed to it.
I thought we were looking at it as a potential USA-based instance, though perhaps I simply misremembered it as actually being within the USA rather than merely being a general-purpose one that could be used. Sorry. Either way if the admin is not fixing the server issues after this long… then I am going to stop worrying (as much) about communities being properly federated with it.
Yes:-). BTW have you had any further issues after all that weirdness with the images awhile ago? Also, wtf I just noticed that Fediverse Explorer is now reporting it as being from the UK?! “Server looks to be located in Slough Slough United Kingdom”
I subscribed so that should start federating content from Discuss.Online.
Lemmy.cafe seems to often get left behind though, and I checked and see that none of the posts there have any comments or votes on them - can someone with a lemmy.cafe alt subscribe to it?
Noice! I can’t see any of the posts except one from today, though now that I’ve subscribed at Discuss.Online others should be able to see it there too.
A…nd now there’s 5 posts and 8 subscribers there from DO, wow it’s growing quickly, keep up the excellent work!:-D
Also this older one too - https://lemmy.world/post/18414833 - i.e. this is a repeated pattern of behavior, not just a series of isolated incidents.
If I can go on a tangent: it is conversations like this that continually convince me that I need never go back to Reddit. Not EVERY SINGLE conversation needs to be full of snark and vitriol. Being able to discuss things rationally, calmly, and with kindness is possible, if only people will create the space within which they are allowed to happen:-).
And how that relates is: using DuckDuckGo convinced me similarly to abandon Google:-). Caveats include using Google Images, Google Maps, etc. e.g. to look up the hours of a shop (the SEO optimization there works for rather than against me, although tbf quite often I have to bat away unrelated results vying for my increased attention due merely to having paid for that exact privilege), but overall the results of DDG are just extremely much more worth my time than Google’s.
As an example, if you search for the keyword “Lemmy”, DDG pulls up Lemmy.World as the #2 hit (which notably has ~80% of all active users on Lemmy, so is overwhelmingly deserving of being listed so highly), after the #1 hit being the singer, whereas on Google the first instance mentioned is Lemmy.ml (that has 2,206 active monthly users, compared to Lemmy.World’s 17,122 that is roughly an order of magnitude higher, and also housing the most-used communities e.g. [email protected] has 16.9k active monthly users compared to [email protected]’s top community with 8.44K), and that not until the #4 hit.
i.e., not only are Google results commodified, but as you said they are “ruined” as well - to the point of representing actual & active disinformation (for the sake of $$$) rather than merely misinformation (aka oopsies). We can scroll past one, two, even ten ads, but how do we find our info when the sorting refuses to distinguish between SEO-advanced results and “real” ones? I dunno, perhaps the above one is a poor example (edit: b/c in the past, Lemmy.ml really was the top Lemmy instance, for so very long), but I think you know what I mean regardless:-).
My apologies that me being hyperbolic did not add clarity and instead caused confusion:-). Ultimately I agree, but was adding the point that users who were either savvy or dedicated enough could still get a lot of use out of Google until more recently, whereupon it is now just a huge mess that makes it more worthwhile to abandon completely (in favor of e.g. DuckDuckGo) - even though it was the demise of Reddit rather than the addition of LLMs that caused the sharp decline (+ other things too, e.g. there was a strike of mods at StackOverflow), i.e. Reddit (& others) was propping up Google results for the longest time, which does not excuse Google for allowing such instability, but helps explain the timeline wherein Google results were both “usable” (even if less so than the past) and also “degraded” at the same time.
That depends strongly on which “public” we are talking about - some extremely intelligent people I have talked to don’t even know what Reddit is. Old Google searches got bad, but if you scrolled down far enough, or added “reddit” to the search terms, they used to be salvageable. So it’s less of a hard cutoff and more of a long process that brought us to where we are today.
Oh, thanks for the correction!:-)
That does not benefit specifically Alphabet though…
I did mention that it was only tangentially related. I did not realize though that programming.dev was not all that old. TIL.
Tangentially, there’s a whole bunch of issues going on with the programming.dev server for one. See at [email protected]. Lemmy’s upcoming upgrade to 0.19.6 should help - see https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4623 and https://feddit.org/post/3524876 discussing it.
Fwiw, lemmy.cafe defederated from lemmy.ml, and is even running a 0.19.6 beta codebase so even if there’s only a single admin they seem really on the ball.
Tesseract also has implemented a way to ban all users from lemmy.ml.
And PieFed allows personal bans on any custom instance you choose. Plus it has “categories” of communities so that you don’t have to keep searching on All, though you can do that too if you want. It seems really polished these days! Not 100% - e.g. you can’t easily search for a user in the same form as a keyword - but it looks extremely usable, so I am switching to it today.
Meanwhile, on Lemmy we were promised that 0.19.3 would allow user blocking of instances, which turned out to be not quite true, and when your instance upgrades from that to 0.19.6 when it comes out (most other instances, like mine, are already running 0.19.5), the protections that it offers will be further rolled back - e.g. on 0.19.3 I did not receive notifications from those users, whereas now on 0.19.5 I do.
And maybe some apps allow blocking of an instance, I dunno about that aspect.
Lemmy.ml was one of the first instances in the Fediverse… but that doesn’t mean that we should be forced to listen to the stuff spewing forth from it unless we choose that for ourselves, especially in the next few months as the trolls go into overdrive due to the ongoing USA election (and likely subsequent “constitutional crisis” event).
Anyway, I just wanted you to know that there are options! Not many, but they do exist!:-)
@[email protected]
What I mean is, the link in a Lemmy community when viewed from a Lemmy instance works just fine. So it’s not broken at that level.
I can’t speak to how it comes across to Mastodon, or your particular method of access to that, as you showed in your screenshot. In general, instances running the Mbin software seem to work better to access both Lemmy and Mastodon, but overall communication between Mastodon and Lemmy seems not perfect, as you said.