• randompasta@lemmy.today
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      21 hours ago

      Wrong. US manufacturers have effectively been shut out of China. But not before they made investments that China basically stole.

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        4 hours ago

        effectively been shut out of China.

        Because Chinese won’t buy massive thirsty trucks. Wtf…Tesla was in China before they even started making EVs.

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          5 hours ago

          Depends on what you mean by American. Most assume you are referring to Ford or GM. But Tesla and Rivian are US made. Many are built in the States by non US companies. BMW, Volvo, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia.

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          12 hours ago

          I worked in the government for a bit, national park service if it matters, we were only allowed to use US made vehicles.

          Constant recalls, constant breakdowns, overall unreliable. These were all vehicles that were less than 5 years okd

          I have a 2007 toyota today that refuses to die and has barely needed any work. I’ll probably have it at least another 3 to 5 years at this rate.

          American cars are shit

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            Worked at an oil refinery in the US. All the company cars were Ford. They all had various issues such as lights not working, the reverse beeper not working, constant engine light. We would get a loaner ford to replace our fleet ford and the loaner would fucking die. It would be comical if it wasn’t my safety being jeopardized.

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              4 hours ago

              Where car is made is irrelevant. How it is designed and engineered matters. Toyotas made in North America outlast anything designed in Detroit.

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              5 hours ago

              Except for the design and almost all the parts. Probably was assembled here

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                5 hours ago

                Many GM and Ford parts are made outside of the US. Possibly only the design and headquarters really separates them. It’s a global supply chain for all companies.

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            12 hours ago

            American capitalism has rendered companies incapable of producing anything that’s not crap at a scale because they need to maximise profit at all costs, while quality doesn’t mean shit. Every company is Boeing.