Show me the last time they mattered for mofe than weakening the votes for one party or another. You guys could have a serious group of other parties, but you’re too dumb to realize th e system is rigged to have the two big ones, abd you’d have to change that system to change that status quo. The only time a party other than the big two will win, is when the billionaire class decides another party will join the fray, not when you guys, the people, decide it. You Americans seemingly just fail to realize this.
“If its not served up to me on a silver platter, then it is useless!” I wonder why it is that way.
As I just said, show me the proof you’re able to do this at this late stage in the process, because last time you all sounded like this, you got trump elected a second time like the dumb fucks you are.
Prove it. Point me to one person who is an actual principled marxist-leninist who is arguing that people should vote for Trump.
I’m not gonna go digging around Lemmy for post from nearly 2 years ago, especially since my original comment has already been deleted by a moderator. If you were here, you saw it or you pretended you didn’t. People here straight up argued that in a kamala vs trump decision, kamala was the wrong choice, and this was not a fringe opinion here.
1.That you dont notice at any other point in time says more about you than anyone else.2.The democrats themselves have no such qualms, gleefully attacking leftists at any possible point in time.
See, I don’t care that the dems have been meany to you, I don’t care that y’all say this at other points in time. I just care when y’all start sounding like this at the wrong moments in time, such as the time you guys elected trump a second time and all the rest of us around the world could do is watch in horror as we got plunged into another dark age… Which is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
Tough shit that you don’t like dems, right now, there’s no other choice, unless you’re telling me you’re finally going to put up arms and resist the system rather than bend over and take in in the ass again.
Do you really think that any government would waste resources creating a tiny bot farm for some niche webforum run by communists? Get your head out of your ass.
Umm hello? AI exists? It costs almost nothing to tell it to go to niche corners and push narratives? Any and all fears that were too far fetched to happen before, are a commoditized reality now. Get YOUR head out of your ass.
On top of that the war with Iran would have happened under Kamala as well
It could have happened under every president before trump as well, trump simply was the one who caved, as EVERYONE who lived through the first term would expect him to. ANY “kamala would’ve been worse” arguments are just removed to me. There’s no "would’ve"s, we got trump out of this bullshit and we’re all eating shit because of it, and I’m sure we would not be eating this level of shit with anyone else.
Listen I don’t know how else to get the point across, nobody remembers anyone going up against Hitler. They just remember Hitler and the people who put and kept him up there. The history books might mention Kamala, but her name is not going to be in everyone’s mouths when studying world history a few years from now. I am an outsider, unable to do anything other than just watch, and it is unbelievably infuriating to see you all harboring any sort of argument that improves Trump’s odds of getting away with all the shit he’s doing. Make no mistake, that’s EXACTLY what y’all are doing here. Silence me all you want, mods, but that’s just the truth. We all have growing amounts of hate for your country, and this bullshit doesn’t help.
Lmao this is the most asinine irrational bullshit I’ve read so far. You demand proof for third party votes mattering, yet blame third party voters for the democrats losing (even though there was no state where they made up enough to make a difference), you want proof of a third party winning the presidential election (the republican party would be one such example) despite that not being what I argued - Instead I argued your defeatism is the reason no such party can come to prominence, which you conveniently failed to ignore - you reduce the fact that Democrats dont adhere to “now is not the time” to “they were mean” instead of engaging with it as the refutation of your line of argument that it is, you manage to completely ignore the reasoning behind Trump being on par with Democrats and you finally make an ahistoric allusion to a fantasy version of how Hitler came to power. If I had a bingo-board for Liberal half-wits then you would have given me the prize already.
I am very happy it took you this long to activate enough of your long-dormant neurons to be able to hit the right buttons on the keyboard, because now there is no longer an audience so there is no need to adress you in order to speak to other readers, and since you’ve shown yourself to completely irrational there is also nothing to be gained from discussion personally.
So this is likely to be my last response to you in this thread unless you manage to make a surprising 180 and turn into a normal person capable of reason.
You’re totally right, I cannot believe I didn’t see this before. We need to keepthe fascists in power because reasons, and hope the revolution starts randomly at some point without further intervention. Any other decision is genocide, even though genocide only accelerated right now but its the right genocide because it’s trump and not kamala. Next time we need to pick trump over mamdani because mamdani is not a true Scotsman communist. Is that how it goes?
such as the time you guys elected trump a second time
You contradict yourself. The system is rigged, but the outcome is our fault?
Tough shit that you don’t like dems, right now, there’s no other choice
But also:
the system is rigged
So that means they read your ballot card, and murder you if you didn’t vote dems?
Listen I don’t know how else to get the point across, nobody remembers anyone going up against Hitler. They just remember Hitler and the people who put and kept him up there.
Hindenburg went up against hitler in the election. Hindenburg got elected, hitler did not. Then hindenburg appointed hitler chancellor. So if you want to compare harris to hindenburg, uhh…
Trump’s odds of getting away with all the shit he’s doing
You want trump gone because he blarts out the genocidal empire’s crimes instead of covering them up.
When I say the system is rigged, I mean you’re going to be stuck voting between two parties because you don’t have ranked choice voting , and you’re going to be stuck with unfavorable choices very often if not enough of you vote due to the electoral college. Tough shit, you still have to go out there and take part in the system unless y’all decide to dismantle it. Otherwise these stupid ass games y’all are playing end up choosing the worst possible choice and taking us all into the worst possibl e outcomes and I’m frankly sick of this shit already. I genuinely got pissed off at this community when trump won the second time because I remember your removed asses arguing that kamala was the wrong choice of the two, and there’s only two choices every time.
Its not that he’s so blatant about the actions of the empire, it’s that his rhetoric has changed everyone’s lives for the worse, I’ve lost friends and family to his bullshit, I’ve endured his decisions financially without even having a say about it, you fuckers DO have a say about it and wish to waste it away for short term morality points without looking at the bigger picture somehow. People really out here trying to argue trump is not that bad? Trying to question what’s so bad about him? Are you guys fucking for real here?
I’m telling this to everyone here: Listen i don’t give a fuck if you need to kiss newsom’s cum-covered face to do it, just get trump and his one percenters the fuck out of office before other countries start feeling the need to do it themselves. Fix your fuckups.
Show me the last time they mattered for mofe than weakening the votes for one party or another. You guys could have a serious group of other parties, but you’re too dumb to realize th e system is rigged to have the two big ones, abd you’d have to change that system to change that status quo. The only time a party other than the big two will win, is when the billionaire class decides another party will join the fray, not when you guys, the people, decide it. You Americans seemingly just fail to realize this.
As I just said, show me the proof you’re able to do this at this late stage in the process, because last time you all sounded like this, you got trump elected a second time like the dumb fucks you are.
I’m not gonna go digging around Lemmy for post from nearly 2 years ago, especially since my original comment has already been deleted by a moderator. If you were here, you saw it or you pretended you didn’t. People here straight up argued that in a kamala vs trump decision, kamala was the wrong choice, and this was not a fringe opinion here.
See, I don’t care that the dems have been meany to you, I don’t care that y’all say this at other points in time. I just care when y’all start sounding like this at the wrong moments in time, such as the time you guys elected trump a second time and all the rest of us around the world could do is watch in horror as we got plunged into another dark age… Which is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
Tough shit that you don’t like dems, right now, there’s no other choice, unless you’re telling me you’re finally going to put up arms and resist the system rather than bend over and take in in the ass again.
Umm hello? AI exists? It costs almost nothing to tell it to go to niche corners and push narratives? Any and all fears that were too far fetched to happen before, are a commoditized reality now. Get YOUR head out of your ass.
It could have happened under every president before trump as well, trump simply was the one who caved, as EVERYONE who lived through the first term would expect him to. ANY “kamala would’ve been worse” arguments are just removed to me. There’s no "would’ve"s, we got trump out of this bullshit and we’re all eating shit because of it, and I’m sure we would not be eating this level of shit with anyone else.
Listen I don’t know how else to get the point across, nobody remembers anyone going up against Hitler. They just remember Hitler and the people who put and kept him up there. The history books might mention Kamala, but her name is not going to be in everyone’s mouths when studying world history a few years from now. I am an outsider, unable to do anything other than just watch, and it is unbelievably infuriating to see you all harboring any sort of argument that improves Trump’s odds of getting away with all the shit he’s doing. Make no mistake, that’s EXACTLY what y’all are doing here. Silence me all you want, mods, but that’s just the truth. We all have growing amounts of hate for your country, and this bullshit doesn’t help.
Lmao this is the most asinine irrational bullshit I’ve read so far. You demand proof for third party votes mattering, yet blame third party voters for the democrats losing (even though there was no state where they made up enough to make a difference), you want proof of a third party winning the presidential election (the republican party would be one such example) despite that not being what I argued - Instead I argued your defeatism is the reason no such party can come to prominence, which you conveniently failed to ignore - you reduce the fact that Democrats dont adhere to “now is not the time” to “they were mean” instead of engaging with it as the refutation of your line of argument that it is, you manage to completely ignore the reasoning behind Trump being on par with Democrats and you finally make an ahistoric allusion to a fantasy version of how Hitler came to power. If I had a bingo-board for Liberal half-wits then you would have given me the prize already.
I am very happy it took you this long to activate enough of your long-dormant neurons to be able to hit the right buttons on the keyboard, because now there is no longer an audience so there is no need to adress you in order to speak to other readers, and since you’ve shown yourself to completely irrational there is also nothing to be gained from discussion personally.
So this is likely to be my last response to you in this thread unless you manage to make a surprising 180 and turn into a normal person capable of reason.
You’re totally right, I cannot believe I didn’t see this before. We need to keepthe fascists in power because reasons, and hope the revolution starts randomly at some point without further intervention. Any other decision is genocide, even though genocide only accelerated right now but its the right genocide because it’s trump and not kamala. Next time we need to pick trump over mamdani because mamdani is not a true
Scotsmancommunist. Is that how it goes?You contradict yourself. The system is rigged, but the outcome is our fault?
But also:
So that means they read your ballot card, and murder you if you didn’t vote dems?
Hindenburg went up against hitler in the election. Hindenburg got elected, hitler did not. Then hindenburg appointed hitler chancellor. So if you want to compare harris to hindenburg, uhh…
You want trump gone because he blarts out the genocidal empire’s crimes instead of covering them up.
I want usa gone because it exports annoying ads.
We are enemies.
When I say the system is rigged, I mean you’re going to be stuck voting between two parties because you don’t have ranked choice voting , and you’re going to be stuck with unfavorable choices very often if not enough of you vote due to the electoral college. Tough shit, you still have to go out there and take part in the system unless y’all decide to dismantle it. Otherwise these stupid ass games y’all are playing end up choosing the worst possible choice and taking us all into the worst possibl e outcomes and I’m frankly sick of this shit already. I genuinely got pissed off at this community when trump won the second time because I remember your removed asses arguing that kamala was the wrong choice of the two, and there’s only two choices every time.
Its not that he’s so blatant about the actions of the empire, it’s that his rhetoric has changed everyone’s lives for the worse, I’ve lost friends and family to his bullshit, I’ve endured his decisions financially without even having a say about it, you fuckers DO have a say about it and wish to waste it away for short term morality points without looking at the bigger picture somehow. People really out here trying to argue trump is not that bad? Trying to question what’s so bad about him? Are you guys fucking for real here?
I’m telling this to everyone here: Listen i don’t give a fuck if you need to kiss newsom’s cum-covered face to do it, just get trump and his one percenters the fuck out of office before other countries start feeling the need to do it themselves. Fix your fuckups.