• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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      10 days ago

      The same thing is happening/has already happened in China, the government there can find you and black bag you anywhere at any time. Ask Naomi Wu.

      Russia basically is this already.

      Europe is also trying to go there with the repeated attempts to pass chat control and age restrictions on internet access.

      In the US, capitalism is the tool the authoritarians are using to accomplish their goals, and it is absolutely enabling the spread of the surveillance state. Capitalism itself is not the motivation for the surveillance state, it’s just being used by the authoritarians. If we’re going to put a stop to this kind of behavior, we have to get the targets right. Flock and the other companies like them are a symptom of the larger problem.

    • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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      10 days ago

      This isn’t a capitalism problem. It’s an authoritarianism problem. The only thing about this that relates to capitalism is that it’s a private company setting up the cameras instead of the state doing it.

      • liuther9@lemmy.world
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        Capitalism is about gaining all power (capital). Its end goal is complete surveillance. 2+2 = 4

      • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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        10 days ago

        That’s a gross over simplification that ignores the influence of the insurance industry shifting the baseline of public surveillance and crony capitalism that infects our municipalities.

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          Yes, that’s how it’s implemented under capitalism.

          States further into their authoritarianism don’t need to bother with middle men and cutouts and shit.

          They just put up the cameras.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        “Decentralize the mass surveillance!” cries the anarcho-libertarian. “Big Government is monopolizing all the cameras! We should let the market decide who gets spied on!”