I’ve heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn’t have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome.

Another option I’m considering is Windscribe.One major knock against it (and the same thing for AirVPN) is that htere is no tutorial available for installing the wireguard version on openwrt.

I really don’t know enough about these. Windscribe has been sort of tested in court (again that was in Greece, and they don’t have the same might of an authoritarian state as the US or some place), so that’s a plus.

I don’t know, I’m so confused that it sort of makes sense to stick with Mullvad at times.

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    I know you mentioned AirVPN only having an app on their website, but you can use it with the wireguard client (you just have to make the conf file names short enough and remove special characters to import them). This is how I personally use AirVPN on Android.

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        I really want people to tell me about other options, neither airvpn or ivpn seem awesome for the southern hemisphere and linux, for the majority of users they look like the best choices though. It is a dodgy industry.

        Looking up vpns is a pain in the butt due to how manipulated 99% of sites about them are, plus the usual fan blah blah

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    Air is my go to piracy vpn. Their app is garbage, use the config file generator instead. Air is my go to piracy VPN because it is a piracy vpn service. I would not use them as a shield from any sort of serious threat.

    I use windscribe for stuff that doesn’t matter like bypassing geoblocks. I don’t trust them, their abilities or my ability to limit my own exposure to their malice, compliance or incompetence. It’s a confusing service.

    People are suggesting ivpn and I have used it. It’s a downgrade from mullvad in every way but it might be safe. I can’t say because it hasn’t been tested in the same way.

    I use mullvad when it actually matters. It’s really hard to screw up and they have the best app of any vpn service I’ve ever used.

    There are a lot of people saying why they would want to move away from mullvad, why do you? What devices and operating systems do you use it on? How do you pay?

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    I’ve heard a lot about AirVPN, but it doesn’t have an app on Fdroid or anything. Yes you can download it directly from their site, but that is a little cumbersome.

    Consider using Obtainium. It might be a little cumbersome to get it set up, but once you do, Obtainium will handle checking for and installing updates whenever they are released.

    Install Obtainium from GitHub or F-Droid. Then you can add Eddie (the AirVPN client app) by using the install button on this page:
    https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/apps?categoryMode=inclusive&category=vpn&sort=popular&q=Eddie

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      Obtainium is annoying a lot though, its probably not a fault of theirs necessarily but there is so often failure due to locating an installable build from a repo link

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          Yeah I would try to install from their git as much as possible but it is very inconsistent. Nothing found or no installable build found, so have to hope they are on fdroid.

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        I am aware of https://mullvad.net/en/blog/donation-controversy and https://dberntsson.info/2026/07/20/orebropartiet/ and

        • extreme right wing moniker seems a smear campaign against Örebro

        • the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder

        This whole campaign smells of something intelligence services would do if they’re facing a problem they can’t make go away another way. And it is actually working because of people like you, who amplify this attack.

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          the company has nothing to do with private affairs of the founder

          They give him money. He uses that money for bad.

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          It definitely is an extreme right party, and the founder’s riches are a direct result of the company’s success.

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            So you are attacking my character rather than correcting me? That doesn’t work. Please provide your backing information.

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              Wait what lmao? Do you know how claiming things work? You made a claim now back it up. I don’t have to prove the opposite, that’s not how any of this works.

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          Nope, looking at that post, it looks like a far right party blaming poor people and PMC instead of their real enemies (the ruling class internally and the United States externally). The founder describes themselves as a libertarian anarchist and supports a far right party, mega shocker there, but pretending it’s a smear is false. Just be honest and say you don’t care if you don’t care, don’t try and fool those of us who suffer from the effects of fascism that this isn’t a fascist movement.

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            I am getting tired of everyone being called fascist. Because if everybody is a fascist, then nobody is.

            I’m basing my choice on technology and personal recommendation of people I trust who know the owners.

            All this loud thread just confirms this is an attack based on spurious reasons.

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    OpenVPN on a VPS from Njalla paid for in Monero

    I’m not being silly (other than that I’m a freakin’ tinfoil hat compared to most people)

    This is my actual setup.

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      Depends on your reason for using a VPN. Presumably your Njalla VPS has a static IP address. I like being able to rotate servers if one is being blocked by a given service (ie YouTube).

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        Seconding electric nan’s comment. There is a valid use case for that model IMO, but it also ties your identity to a different fixed IP. Maybe if you were PERFECT about opsec it wouldn’t tie to your ID, but in practice nobody is going to be. That’s nearly impossible in today’s tracking centric world. So data brokers will learn user X has IP Y, nobody else uses that IP, so other connections from IP Y are probably user X too.

        There’s a benefit to sharing an IP with many other ppl and rotating the IP around. There are drawbacks too ofc.

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    There’s Proton, but given the controversy… yeah (though I did look at what they donate to and it seems to not be right-wing companies).

    IVPN is perhaps your best bet.

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          proton are an ai company, and an email provider. do the math there.

          I had a 2 year subscription with them, using their vpn and email. I stopped using them after approx 6 months of product use, customer support, and paying attention to their social media manipulation, and repeated lack of attention to product quality. Throwing away the other 18 months of subscription.

          They are a very dodgy company, trying to be the next google, which is ironic considering how many canadian patriots are now heading there due to trump/google.

          Their brand is very popular with their zombie fans who struggle to think, but are very quick with upvotes, and downvotes.

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          Repeated misleading marketing on both their social medias and websites such as the false “no-log” claim that got someone arrested

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            Interesting. I’ll read up in that.

            Also: check your permissions to prevent possible rights escalations. (And yes, I know that it relies more on the sudoers file but I am sure there is some attack surface there …)

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      Proton made one positive comment about some Trump anti censorship policy. Their “controversy” is really overblown.

      Mullvad is directly donating to Nazis.

      That said Proton doesn’t have the same extreme privacy as Mullvad. But they are much cheaper with promos and also have good app support.

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        Proton also keeps leaking information to the government that led to protesters getting arrested

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            It is for people who want to not get arrested, especially when the alternatives don’t have the same level of neglect that Proton does (and some of them have a proven track record of not leaking information). IVPN and AirVPN at least accept Monero so I’d trust them more

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        A Mullvad founder and co-owner donating to Nazis is NOT Mullvad directly donating to Nazis.

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          No, but it is Mullvad customers money going directly to funding an obviously far right party.

          The co-owner is very much the major funder of that party.

          Honesty is really easy.

          OP asked for options, not for this debate to go around in circles again.

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      One of the owners of Mullvad donated a vast sum of money to a Swedish Nazi political party, accounting for 70% of their funding, which resulted in boosted popularity there.

      This is the leader of that political party:

      https://www.friatider.se/markus-allard-om-andra-generationens-invandrare-de-ska-ocksa-ut

      Örebro Party leader Markus Allard goes to the election on expulsions. He opens to withdraw citizenship and also expel second generation of immigrants – even if they were born in Sweden.
      “I’m prepared to cross corpses,” he said.

      One suggestion that he has is that citizenship and permanent residence permits can be torn up – with reference to “Sweden is the country of Swedes”.

      In a section of Yoshi’s Podcast, Allard develops his view on expulsions and explains that he prepared to “go over corpses” to bring home unwanted immigrants. The host notes that there will be no beautiful sight when, for example, immigrant mothers who have been on maternity leave for 15 years are to be deported together with their children. “It’s not going to be pretty to send these people home,” he said. Markus Allard agrees, but says: I think you can handle that optics. Even the children will need to be deported, he explains.

      He further explains that many of the problems relate to second-generation immigrants. They are going out too. Even if they were born in Sweden, because they have no natural connection to Sweden. They are not Swedes. They have not become Swedes. It says Sweden in the passport, but they have not been interested in becoming part of Sweden. There’s a difference. It’s a qualitative difference," Allard said.

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      Last I looked the eddie app didn’t even have split tunneling?

      people on their reddit frequently recommend against using eddie too

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        Again, it’s fine - not the bees knees. You can exclude local networks from the VPN. If there is another VPN/Wireguard app that does app based split tunnelling or whatever you’re looking for just use that with AirVPN instead of Eddie.

        Maybe WGTunnel? Haven’t tried it myself.