• CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Obviously I don’t know the specifics of this situation, but if a cat jumps into a fenced yard with a dog and gets chased, that seems pretty unfair since the dog owner is being responsible. But maybe that wasn’t the case here.

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      2 days ago

      I am a responsible dog owner. The guy was just a jerk, and he still is.

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      2 days ago

      Every case needs a proper, unbiased, investigation - and we won’t be getting that here tonight.

      My snowflake neighbor came crying to me about his chickens being murdered and how he saw my cat on his camera and if he ever saw my cat again he was going to shoot it - nevermind that cats don’t murder full grown laying hens in their pen and the fact that we have raccoons, hawks, owls, and coyotes which DO murder full grown laying hens at any opportunity. I had to jump a hoop (get an ear clipped) to get my cat protected as “free to roam” in our county, which is a little weird, but now that he’s protected legally as a “community cat” anyone who brags about shooting him is eligible for an open and shut animal cruelty case, $500 fine and court ordered anger management counselling. We passed this information to the snowflake through his landlord, and have not heard peep out of him since - 2 and a half years now.

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        2 days ago

        If you ever get another cat, name it Snowflake and make sure to tell your neighbor you named it after them 😁👍

      • Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 days ago

        Not about your specific situation, but Cats can definitely kill hens. I used to live on a small farm and we had issues with some wild cats.

        Lots of other issues with other predators, but it’s entirely possible, especially at night.

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          1 day ago

          Yeah, we’ve got a vicious killer on our hands here, he’s a big orange/white floof and about 6 times in the 7 years we have had him, he’ll bring a baby squirrel, or little fledgling bird to us. Nothing approaching the size of an adult squirrel, much less a hen. I suppose if he were hungry enough he might try, but… with all the other wildlife around it’s irresponsible to not protect your henhouse with hardware cloth to prevent predators from digging under the wire in the night (which, somehow the camera surveillance managed to miss - although why snowflake didn’t just make his coop more secure like the neighbors do is just… a him thing.) His next door neighbor watched a hawk grab the wire on the top of their run, in the middle of he day, and try to fly up with it / lift it off. We have had a young hawk grab a hen from the new neighbors’ open run that was a little too big for him to carry far, made it 100 meters to our driveway and set down there, as I rounded the corner I spooked him away and he left his prize, 15 minutes later he had returned to take it away.

          So, yeah, bruiser the cat is capable, but about as likely to bother with his hens as he is to attack the FedEx delivery guy.

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              19 hours ago

              Maybe we like, lock you under house arrest - not house and yard arrest, just house arrest. You get a box of clay chips to relieve yourself in and are never ever allowed to go out and touch grass for your entire life, we’ll just let you look out the windows at the world you can smell and hear but never touch, while the rest of us come and go freely as we please, sometimes staying away for days. Oh, I forgot, you do get to “go out” locked in a tiny cage, transported in a way that makes you nauseous to go visit a clinic full of fear stink where they poke you with needles and force feed you foul tasting things, or maybe this is that special visit where they make you unconscious and you wake up having been surgically altered, then it’s back to the house via the vomit box for you.

              Not at all surprising that they shit in your shoes when you do that.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Yeah, so, like I said, about once or twice a year, our ecological disaster kills a bird or a squirrel - usually a tiny baby one that had already fallen out of its nest. Meanwhile, if you watch, the hawks and owls are cleaning up, multiple kills nightly just in our yard. Raccoons will eat whatever they can get ahold of, Coyotes are a real hoot… even the turkeys eat more lizards than our cat.

                  You may be aghast at the statistics of what the 150 million cats, collectively, kill each year in the US- I’m aghast at what we’ve done to our wild spaces where vastly more killing is part of the natural order which dominated this continent until the last 200 years or so. This is what really needs to happen if we’re going to have an ecology: https://eowilsonfoundation.org/eowbf-archive/half-earth-our-planets-fight-for-life

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                    16 hours ago

                    Whataboutism at its finest.

                    Doesn’t matter what wild animals do. Your domesticated animal should not be allowed to kill indiscriminately. What you see the cat bring back isn’t the full total of its destruction.

                    Your cat will also push out other predators and has no need to compete for resources with wild animals.

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        23 hours ago

        I would probably buy a gun and shoot someone if they shot my cat. Humans aren’t more special than animals. That’s like the one thing that would get me riled up enough to commit a crime of passion is hurting my cats.

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          22 hours ago

          When I was 9 years old, our neighbor boys used our cat for target practice with their air rifles, back in those days apparently the air rifles were powerful enough to put a pellet through a pelt, our cat crawled up inside the engine bay of our car to hide, got caught in the belts when we started it, but it wasn’t the belt that killed the cat, it was the pellet hole in its torso. I never acknowledged their existence again except to be rude at any opportunity, I doubt it changed their cruel dispositions.