The products covered by the obligation to repair currently include:

  • washing machines and washer-dryers
  • dishwashers
  • refrigerators
  • electronic displays
  • welding equipment
  • servers and data storage products
  • mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets
  • tumble dryers
  • e-bikes and e-scooters batteries (from 18 February 2027)
  • local space heaters
  • Cam@scribe.disroot.org
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    7 hours ago

    They won’t make it so we can install any OS we want on tablets or phones, nor make drivers published as free software, right?

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    12 hours ago

    Can’t wait to see what loopholes they will implement such that I can avoid repairing my shit and pay full price for a new one anyway because the repair costs just as much as a new one. God forbid replacing a single bearing instead of the whole wash drum, I hope the EU protects me from that like before.

    • Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      You can repair it, you just need a proprietary driver, a torque wrench, 5 hands, 18 fingers, and wait 5 months for the part to arrive.

      Or just take it to our shop where you can spend 250 bucks to fix your 260 dollar dryer.

      I’m excited for an international business to sell a different version of the item for the EU which is “repairable”, and one for the US which is riveted and welded closed.

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    13 hours ago

    I wonder if this will mean screwed split half washing machine drums, for example.

    One of the most common failure points in washing machines is the drum bearing. Nowadays almost all makes are using drums where the halves of the drum are plastic, welded together, where they used to be screwed together. The welds prevent opening the drum, and make bearing replacement basically impossible. The makes will sell you a replacement of the whole assembly, but it will often cost like 2/3 of a new machine. This means that a bearing failure often results in chucking a machine that used to be repaired for a cost under a 100 € if done professionally, or tens if DIY.

    I imagine the “whole assembly” concept will be used as one of the loopholes.

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      11 hours ago

      That specifically is such a naked example of planned obolescence i’m still salty that was not already illegal.

      I was fuming when the bearing on my Bosh washing machine wore out and without batting an eyelid they wanted to sell me the whole drum assembly. Including mounting springs. Instead of just some bearings.

      For the unitiated, that is roughly 70 percent of all the components in the whole machine. Other than the drum assembly there’s basicly only some logic boards, some plumbing and the motor.

      All that to replace a 20 euro bearing. Which is a “wear part” by the way and should therefore 100 percent be serviceable.

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    17 hours ago

    can we have this in America? Answer: No! in fact in America everything popular in other countries is banned unless it’s used in federal buildings because “security concerns”. yeah… sure… so very worried about “national security” that security risks can only be used in government buildings and not in private homes… yeah sure… that’s secure.

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    21 hours ago

    I love NOS met het oog op morgen, the dutch public broadcast podcast, they invite people over to talk about all sorts of different news topics, or about books they wrote, or songs they written or theater or art they made, but also about news and politics. Its really diverse and super interesting. And loooove this initiative, can’t wait to take my appliances apart so I can clean them better also lol.

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    21 hours ago

    There is no repair without firmware. All hardware needs to be documented and ship with source. It hasn’t been enough to be able to buy physical parts since perhaps the 80s or 90s. Everything is controlled by software. Without that right to repair is a joke. Meanwhile the surveillance industry and their well greased govt supporters are trying to lock down software. Can’t have it both ways.

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      14 hours ago

      Makes you think, right? Almost as if the narrative about how dystopian chat control is and how evil EU is doesn’t really add up and it’s just people repeating some bullshit they read on a blog.

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        12 hours ago

        There is a lot of anti-EU propaganda, especially surrounding the Chat Control.

        Yes, there are some authoritarian politicians trying to push it through. But there is a reason why it has failed so many times. Because most EU politicians are really not that bad.

        The propaganda is being pushed by Russia to sow discontent in the EU. That is why you see on every positive EU story, there is someone in the comment going “What about Chat Control though?” As if that proves the EU is evil.

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          11 hours ago

          As if that proves the EU is evil.

          It sure as hell proves evil intent.
          We’re lucky there’s a majority against chat control but that still means there was a minority proposing it.
          And i don’t think the divide is that big

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            8 hours ago

            It only proves evil intent of those specific politicians trying to push it through.

            It doesn’t prove any evil intent from anything else in the EU.

            The EU is a democracy. Which means that we sometimes also let evil people talk.

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      17 hours ago

      Well when you think about it this is just another form of control over businesses. That’s equally authoritarian.

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      21 hours ago

      The EU is a complex organization with different power poles and a variety of different interests. Add to that members of parliament do not always understand everything they vote for. And yes: you get bad things, nonsensical rules, but also good things.

      Overall, I would say it’s positive, but when it’s bad it can be brutal.

      Edit: I forgot to mention lobbying! Brussels is full of lobbyists!

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      1 day ago

      When the EU mandated USB-C, Apple included a bullshit adapter so they could keep their proprietary charger. But of course if someone with an iPhone was visiting my house they wouldn’t have an adapter with them. Eventually the EU bitch-slapped Apple over that nonsense and now iPhones have USB-C for charging.

      So, companies will definitely try to weasel out of serving consumers, and the EU will eventually sort them out.

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      1 day ago

      Ah fuck boys, we enacted this landmark repairability legislation for daily use machines, but forgot to include video games.

      For real though do you mean game consoles, the software?

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        23 hours ago

        They’re referencing the stop killing games initiative that was turned down recently. It is akin to this but the software version.

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    1 day ago

    I like this for a lot of obvious reasons.

    I worry about corporate malicious compliance though where the cost of a replacement part costs as much as the unit or near it to make up for lost revenue from selling whole units.

    They could even get to the printer ink model where they sell the initial device for cheap or at a lost with planned obsolescence of parts that almost guarantee a replacement rate.

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      1 day ago

      With this though I think there is legal stance because prohibitively high prices can be used as grounds to say that a product “can’t be repaired”. The legal precedent is there, you can’t just say “technically we give you the option, it’s just $2m”.

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        1 day ago

        I really hope you’re right about this. I’ve lost a lot of trust in legal arguments the last few years.

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    1 day ago

    Started as a good idea to regulate industry for the benefit of consumers. Ends up with so many paid-for loopholes it’s mostly useless.

    The cynic in me thinks the only reason the law was created from the start was to extort money from big companies.

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      1 day ago

      This law still has a lot of good things in it. Calling it useless is what those companies would want you to do.