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    3 hours ago

    That’s a bad headline, Reuters. Surveys don’t show how things work; they show what people think. I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if it was true that social media was bad for democracy, but this isn’t enough to say that’s the case.

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      16 hours ago

      It also includes trolling and people that are just plain wrong, but people tend to believe what they want to believe.

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    20 hours ago

    Greta Hopkins ruined my small village by spreading rumours. There was no survey, if you knew Greta, you knew it was her.

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      20 hours ago

      I love the quiet irony you employed here. I know nothing about Greta Hopkins other than she’s a village-ruining whore who should suffer for ask the pain she’s caused!

      I don’t know her, I don’t know the village, and I don’t know you, but that bitch needs to go down. Thanks, social media!

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      20 hours ago

      And by extension the bastardization and gutting of basic education. People who aren’t taught how to think won’t understand things.

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    23 hours ago

    They also spread the truth as well even when government and media have conspired to obscure it. Social media has led to people beating companies, governments and politicians simply by providing an avenue to share reality. Social media defends democracy and protects democracy. There has always been an enormous power balance issues between the elites and the peasants and social media for the first time is allowing the peasants to speak to each other rather than the only voice being the elites through their media platforms.

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      18 hours ago

      They did. That’s why they spent so much effort to ruin the internet these past few years.

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      21 hours ago

      My guy… Social media ARE the elites media platforms you Dingus.

      They aren’t letting people do shit, they are all censored and monitored to ensure we stay fractured and disengaged

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          18 hours ago

          Yet in principle the social benefit described (amplifying voices of the unheard) isn’t entirely out of reach for social media as a category, especially if we can escape the era of closed platforms. Open alternatives are still relatively new. There is a plausible future in which closed platforms are left behind and we become much more capable of keeping mass public manipulation in check.

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            10 hours ago

            Exactly but I think for most people social media = the ones used by the masses, the “social normiedia”, like Facebook and Twitter.

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    23 hours ago

    It’s more than just spreading rumors. Rumors have been spread for millenia, and democracy made it through OK.

    The difference is that the social media companies have a much broader reach than any sort of media congglamerate that came before it, and value engagement and attention above everything else. They understand that rumors generate attention, and their algorithmic feeds are designed to put whatever will generate more engagement in front of you.

    I wonder how much damage media titans like Hearst would have done today if they built their empires now, on top of social media feeds, instead of in print 125 years ago…

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      2 hours ago

      Rumors have been spreading for a millennium, and democracy has been okay in the sense that democracy has only been a thing relatively recently. Social media didn’t exist 1,000 years ago as a means to spread rumors at scale to hundreds of millions of people.

      Something that was said decades ago is that every village used to have an idiot. Now every idiot has a village.

      And even more so now, the efforts of one person to sway public opinion can push lies to hundreds of millions of people, which is something that has been impossible up till now.

    • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 hours ago

      I wonder how much damage media titans like Hearst would have done today if they built their empires now, on top of social media feeds, instead of in print 125 years ago…

      Is there really much of a difference besides the speed of communication? Social media is the top medium that people get their news from, just like newspapers from 125 years ago, and just like TV (Fox News) from 40 years ago . Have enough control over that medium and you have control over the information flow, enough to generate your own propaganda and have a real meaningful impact.

      Besides that fact that social media can post information in a matter of minutes vs. the daily cycle of newspapers, I don’t really see the difference. Social media isn’t really special in that regard. If anything, the control has shifted more towards the public. But, people are still lacking in critical thinking skills and continue to idolize famous people as a proxy for trustworthiness. Hence, they still fall for rumors and disinformation, especially if some famous dumbass said it.

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      18 hours ago

      News came before the internet, so they state sources, not link them, which they did in the first sentence:

      Oct 1 (Reuters) - A growing number of people think social media manipulates and divides people and harms democracy, Pew Research Center said ​on Thursday

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        Honestly, it’s kind of a wild claim to be seen in 2026, when, nearly over a decade ago, Facebook was abusing this exact thing and optimizing their social media algorithms specifically to manipulate and divide people because it increased engagement.

        And here we are, seemingly having forgotten the past, which is barely even history at this point, and are finding ourselves surprised that the exact thing that was being built has the exact effect that it was being built to create.

        Even more astonishing is the number of people in this comment section either arguing against that or refuting it.

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        18 hours ago

        The point of a sarcastic comment like mine, is to shame reuters for their shitty behavior, that has fallen behind the times.

        As the other commenter has demonstrated, finding the study is easy. For everyone, including reuters. The reason they don’t link them is cultural, they are so arrogant to believe they don’t have to. Which pisses me off and sarcasm and ridiculing them is the only tool available to me to maybe make them stop eventually.