There is no date of arrival for the motorola yet. I only read beginning of 2027. That could also be delayed. And if it is a phone with underwhelming specs, I wouldn’t want to buy it either. But buying a pixel now means not buying a motorola soon.
I’ll on the opposite side: will the Moto GOS be more affordable than a Pixel one? It seems they’ll go the way of the Signature and beyond
I just got a used pixel late last year and have been using that.
The 10 pro still has graphene support. It’ll be on sale here in a little while because the pro 11 is launching (same with their other variants, I think). Unless we get a for sure launch date for the graphene moto phones, I’d pull the trigger on a new pixel.
Has there been any rumor of Google stopping GOS?
GOS came out with a statement detailing the continuation of Pixel support.
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114670995130379882
https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
They say it’s harder and harder to get AOSP and the Pixel 11 series have an upgraded ‘more secure’ proprietary chip set so they are unsure how long they will be able to continue support.
Man, that’s such a bummer to hear. If only there was a Linux alternative.
There are Linux alternatives they just need a lot more work though before they could be used as a daily driver.
Is its bootloader unlockable, or locked to Graphene? Graphene seems to be trading freedom for ‘security’.
I will wait for Motorola.
If you understand what graphene is for and you need that then you wont wait.
Even if you don’t understand what graphene is for or if you need it and are trying to make a decision: graphene on new and used pixel phones works as expected now. It has been tested and proven against many different intelligence and surveillance apparatus. Motorolas new phone may not come out at all (it’s more likely than you might think!), may not end up supporting graphene (or graphene may not end up supporting it!) or it may have serious flaws that need to be addressed (it is a new hardware platform after all!).
If you need it now don’t wait.
Aside from how the phones actually compare, I think it’d be good to show there is a market for a factory graphene phone. I want companies to see the difference (financially) when they start taking privacy and other pro consumer ideas seriously.
FWIW, am using a pixel 7 pro, and don’t feel any need for higher specs. Though I’m not doing any kind of demanding gaming.
You’re not missing anything whatsoever. I got a great deal on a lightly used Pixel 10 Pro and other than the telephoto camera lens (which is admittedly nice) there is literally no functional difference I notice day to day from my previous Pixel 7 (not pro).
Same here on a 7A, which is slower than the pro version. Although OP should know that the 7 series is stopping support in 1-2 years: https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime
7a user here. I think the device is getting slower and I have very minimal apps installed almost none aftermarket. Only 2 extra profiles set to run only when active. Minimal background usage and still its slowish. The battery is decent still so long as it’s used like a phone and not browsing much or on dimmer brightness. It’s ok.
If I just learned of GOS now and didn’t have a Pixel, I would buy an unlocked unit cheap and used now. Motorola have gone quiet about their GOS phone in the months since the announcement. If it ends up flagship-priced, I’d have to settle for a used Pixel anyway.
But since I have a Pixel with GOS that is perfectly usable already, I’m holding out to see what Motorola comes up with. Either way, not too worried about specs since I don’t use my phone that much. Would be nice to have SD card, headphone jack (bonus ease of security points over Bluetooth and dongles), and replaceable battery, but have also learned to (begrudgingly) tolerate phones without those.
iode. I wouldn’t trust Graphene ad far as I could throw its founder.
Swappa.com for a cheap ass used pixel…typed from my cheap ass pixel with GrapheneOS
It all depends on how badly you need a new phone. My current Pixel is perfectly serviceable, so I have no problem waiting to see what Motorola eventually has to offer. My current phone will almost certainly suffice until then.
With that said, if my current phone was actually broken or whatever, I would probably buy a cheap/old/used Pixel to tide me over until the Motorola reveal.
Unless I needed a replacement now, I would wait. It’ll be the first phone designed with GOS in mind but also Motorola’s recent track record isn’t amazing. I’m also hoping they have multiple phones supporting GOS. If initial reviews aren’t great, then refurbished Pixel it is.
I’m waiting. Not only because I’d rather use Motorola over Google, but also because I want to wait and see how the EU ID apps will work on GrapheneOS. If it won’t work on GOS (which seems quite likely as of today), then I will ditch the phone as a social medium entirely and only use it for ID, banking apps and other proprietary garbage society forces upon me. I’d relegate my social life to a portable laptop or something, on which I have a far greater control of the software.
I feel you, but don’t get your hopes up about other hardware either. Hardware based attestation could be coming to any and all devices, making it impossible to access any online services that will require a certain hardware.
I swear to God, we’ll all end up using LoRa devices…
If you have an ok phone now, there’s no need for a new one unless it’s interesting. I’d wait to see about the moto graphene phone. I’m quite happy with low end moto hardware (G series) but they will probably screw up and make the graphene phone a flagship, as someone mentioned.
