And I don’t mean just Google’s Android. Every single iteration. With their stupid memory management for PoWeR sAvInG.
I was typing up a rant on how incredibly boring and stupid Disclosure Day was when I just quickly switched to Firefox to look up a character’s name when Android decided that I was done using my Lemmy client and just outright killed it without even giving it enough time to save my comment to drafts, like it usually does.
You can never be sure when you leave an app whether it will continue doing what it’s supposed to or if it will be frozen or killed.
I’ve got 4 GB of RAM and multiple CPU cores. That should be enough to run a dozen apps in parallel. My frickin N900 with 128 MB had better multitasking than a modern Android smartphone!
Says who? Based on what?
the fact that systems exist which don’t, but still do the same things
Which systems?
my pc at home, which doubles as a server, which runs plex, qbittorrent and other stuff, idles at about 1.5 to 2 gigs. While signed in to kde
The phone i am typing this on is currently sitting at just under 5gigs in use, jerboa is the only open app.
Does your pc have a mobile connection? Does your pc have all the services a phone does? No, so it’s not a fair comparison.
RAM being “in use” doesn’t mean that it requires it at that exact time. Unused RAM is wasted ram. Phones pre-load commonly used apps into ram without “opening” them. Your home server doesn’t.
If my phone had 64GB of RAM I’d want 60GB+ of that to be in use at all times, otherwise what’s the point of having it?
my pc also has a full networking stack, just like the phone. And it has a bunch of services running. And i didn’t count cached memory for either, just what is in use at the moment.
If you had 64gigs of ram you’d want 60+ to be used as cache, not to be “in use”. And i force closed all apps except the one I’m using to write this comment.
Why is it so hard for you to believe stuff is bloated and can actually be significantly more efficient?
My phone doesn’t have all the services my pc has either…
You’ve got cell reception in your pc/server?
No, it can be in use, not cached. Keep actual apps open and running in the background if you want them to. Do more in the background.
Stuff could be more efficient, but you’re talking like you know how much ram operating systems of all different types need/should be using better than the people making them. You don’t.
in my laptop, not my pc, but yes. And it doesn’t make a difference. It needs a couple of megabytes of ram. Not gigabytes. A cellular modem does its thing in its own firmware, the driver side is tiny in comparison.
When you work in embedded stuff with kilobytes of ram, you learn to appreciate just how much a little memory could go. Yes, I do know, this shit is my bread and butter
You have no idea what Android or iOS or Windows or any other operating system is doing in the background though, you just think it’s “bloat” and “inefficient”. I guarantee you that the people making these OS’s know more about it than you, and are making it as efficient as it can be.