• TronBronson@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Remember the Turing test? Damn goal posts move faster than the ball. I’m not sure how one could fail to be impressed by the technological advancements in the last 3 years in the field

    • h0tbeef@lemmy.zip
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      5 days ago

      An important variable of the Turing Test that is never spoken about is the intelligence (or gullibility) of the user.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 days ago

        Then define intelligence.

        You can’t just say a thing is intelligent or not intelligent without coming up with a good definition. We are ugly meatbags of mostly water that are constantly driven by chemical processes. How the hell do you call that intelligent? Prove that we are intelligent, and then prove that the “algorithmic iterator”, that uses weighted metrics with an eerie similarity to neurons, isn’t actually intelligent.

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          5 days ago

          https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intelligence

          I know you’re not a fan of the dictionary, but they are the authority on words and their meanings.

          Before you get too excited about definition 3 I suggest you familiarize yourself with what it means to “compute” https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compute you’ll notice repeated use of the word “determine”. LLMs are by nature “non-deterministic” or in other words “incapable of determining / incapable of making a determination”.

          A computer is deterministic

          An LLM is a probabilistic next-word-guessing machine / software as a service

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            4 days ago

            Your analysis of definition 3 also precludes the human mind as being capable of computation since biological systems contain inherent randomness that makes their output non deterministic.

    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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      5 days ago

      Sort of.

      I think Turing thought, “well something that could do this would surely HAVE to be intelligent”, but I seriously doubt that he would have waved the white flag for an intelligence that can’t count letters in a word but can convincingly mimic human behavior.

      • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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        5 days ago

        Well the Test now includes casual tasks like counting letters, doesn’t it? You have to move your head in a certain way to spot the leopard in the shaded forest.