If a police officer does something wrong. It does not matter what the evidence shows or what happens. All police everywhere stand firmly together and protect their brethren. We literally have police offers who have undeniably murdered people and yet other police still stand with their class and demand better treatment.
If workers had that level of solidarity things would be so much better. Instead we cheer when someone gets fired who “deserved” it.
Their role in society is very different from workers. They protect the interests of capitalists. As such, they’re allowed to have solidarity, because it does not affect the ruling class negatively. Not so for the proletariat.
But people who suck at their jobs deserve to get fired, whether they’re cops or not. Keeping them in that job just because they’re “one of us” is irrational.
You posted this to the wrong community (this is /c/UnpopularOpinion, not /c/PopularOpinion) but I’ll take your bait:
If a police officer does something wrong. It does not matter what the evidence shows or what happens. All police everywhere stand firmly together and protect their brethren.
This is a blatant lie and you know it, otherwise zero cops would ever be arrested.
That said, I agree with the spirit of your post in the sense that laborers typically have little to no solidarity, and police generally have at least a measurable degree of (often feigned) solidarity.
thats an unacceptable level of solidarity. Its like people who would hide their insane family member who likes to dismember people.
They kind of have to have solidarity because they are willing to die for their job. Every shift could be their last one.
Pizza delivery drivers are more likely to die on the job and they won’t cover up someone beating their wife (like cops do way more than average)
You’re right. Pizza drivers and police officers experience exactly the same dangers.
No no no, you’re going to back up and fix your first statement. You’re saying police have solidarity because they could die on the job, and there’s jobs way more dangerous than theirs that aren’t known for solidarity. So the that of death isn’t related to solidarity.
So you were wrong.
Once again you’re right. You won.
It is easy to gather in solidarity when A) You are literally trained in pack tactics, backing up your fellow officer, and the culture instills an us vs them mentality by default, B) the solidarity you have is specifically in self-preservation from consequences for violent crimes that would otherwise destroy your life, and C) you are in a position of authority that gives you protection, preference, deference, and priority in all legal matters.
Am I in the right community? How is this an unpopular opinion?
How is it even an opinion??
It’s an Opinion rather than a Fact because:
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It’s impossible to objectively measure solidarity.
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As a result, it’s a subjective opinion whether or not Group A has more vs. less solidarity than Group B.
To your other point, OP wants to circle-jerk for clout and doesn’t care that their post doesn’t fit. Evidently, the vast majority of people are on board with that.
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It’s a product of their inherent selfishness and sociopathy. They don’t care about others, they care about themselves and they want to be protected when they inevitably rape and/or murder someone. Same thing happens in powerful circles in the West (remember Epstein and everyone before him?). This wouldn’t work for society, we actually need people who “love their neighbour as much as they love themselves”… but we’re at a high point for vanity and self-centeredness so it’s gonna take at least a couple hundred years in the West to veer into that direction, probably.
“All police everywhere…”
One single exception is all it takes to debunk an absolute claim.
And yet, people love chanting their absolutist catchphrase whenever one is mentioned.
Which is it? Can’t be both, that literally defies the whole point of an absolute stance.
We have a massive, well funded and organized operation working 24/7 to keep us divided. It’s purpose is to remove solidarity and it’s doing a fantastic job at it. I don’t know how to counter it :(
The Police Union is the only union the Right likes.
Unions are quite common in trades and that field is heavily populated by right-leaning people who are very much for those unions.
Which is crazy, since they vote for people who want to dissolve unions.
yup, and theres is a reason why its mostly white people in trades, thats why telling people to get into trades is rarely appropiate when its dominated by these people.
What does that have to do with whether right-leaning people are for or against unions?
I disagree with this take, so take your upvote. I’m all for unions, and I agree that more unions would help improve the world for more people. But if the police unions teach us anything, it’s the dangers of an overly powerful union.
But if the police unions teach us anything, it’s the dangers of an overly powerful union.
Yes and No.
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The FOP has tremendous political pull (because Ds and Rs both generally are pro-police, whether at literal or metaphorical gunpoint or not).
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Not every agency has a union, let alone one that’s affiliated with the FOP.
It’s kinda like saying the guy who does your plumbing has a stupidly overpowered union because some plumbers are affiliated with the Teamsters.
Ok, but there’s plenty of evidence in the news of objectively bad police officers either escaping punishment for crimes or simply moving to a department in a different state. Between the unions and the “brotherhood mentality,” police in the US have become almost untouchable. That’s definitely a Bad Thing, and the union certainly plays a part in that. I never said it was only the union. I was simply replying to the OP.
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The police aren’t working class…
Im sure pretty much all gangs do.
It helps that they have a stupidly overpowered union.
Yes and No.
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The FOP has tremendous political pull (because Ds and Rs both generally are pro-police, whether at literal or metaphorical gunpoint or not).
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Not every agency has a union, let alone one that’s affiliated with the FOP.
It’s kinda like saying the guy who does your plumbing has a stupidly overpowered union because some plumbers are affiliated with the Teamsters.
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which technically isnt a true union, just a gang/mafia that browbeats the govt to give what it wants, or they dont enforce any laws.
… What do you think a union is? It’s collective action to get your demands or they don’t get what they want
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