• frunch@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Christ, is that a real image? I think I’m just so horrified at the idea that I’d rather chalk it up to ai/trolling 😶

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      17 hours ago

      it’s real. so are some of the other images. the Us was in vietnam for profit and control, and entered via a lie and stayed longer than “needed” thanks to people like kissinger. fun fact: the US bombed Laos (with whom we were not at war) with more bombs than all nations in ww2 dropped, combined.

      funner fact fact: the US has been a terrorist state since its inception, has only had profit in mind, and has never been free.

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        16 hours ago

        the most terrorist country in modern day history

        Or just history. No need for the ‘modern day’ part.

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        18 hours ago

        In an age of unprecedented amounts and quality of propaganda i have no qualms about questioning an image for authenticity. I also have no problem seeing the ugliness or terrorism committed, i just think it’s important to vet information more than ever these days. I fully believe they were doing what they did there, and the article was helpful in gaining perspective on the situation on the ground there. Absolutely abhorrent.

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          17 hours ago

          Of course you have the right to question anything these days on the internet, my rant was meant for the deniers and doubters.

          the first subliminal response of the American mind will be to question this factual war crime because of of the counter propaganda image that was created by the us government & then fed to them from day 0 throughout their lifetime.

          This propaganda is spoon fed in video games, tv ads, tv shows, movies, sport event, …etc

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            No, I think most Americans think more along the lines of “Yes, we committed atrocities in Vietnam, but it was an unfortunate consequence of war, which is never pretty.” Some McCarthy-aligned Americans would follow that up with “To make an omelette (stop communism) you need to crack some eggs (kill civilians).”

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              Maybe worth pointing out here that being a communist country doesn’t seem to have done Vietnam much harm.

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                I don’t know if that can be objectively asserted without checking parallel universes, but it obviously didn’t ruin the country like McCarthy types assert is inevitable.

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              14 hours ago

              What you said is exactly what dehumanizing means. And that last part is just pure evil since it justifies annihilating humans for propaganda.

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                13 hours ago

                McCarthy types generally think that communism is evil, and their utilitarians believe doing Little Evil to fight Big Evil is completely acceptable.

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        Well done on finding another source.

        I have no idea what you’re talking about for the rest of your post though. It seems perfectly reasonable to question the validity of a random picture on Twitter.

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        People are vicious and have been so for as long as we’ve been around. Your country does/did the same stuff, or would have if it could.

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          “This mass-murderer told me that everyone is actually just as bad as him. Why would he lie?”

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          Human nature is malleable, and depends on the material conditions we find ourselves in. People are not inherently vicious, though we all have the capacity to be.

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          crimes committed by people around me are completely the same as the hypothetical crimes people around you would’ve committed if we lived in a different reality, so you shouldn’t criticise me and hurt my feelings. Also, don’t ask why my people are still committing war crimes. Its all justified.

          You people can’t be serious

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          14 hours ago

          No, and if hypothetically your false assumption was correct and my country did something similar then i would distance myself from it

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      18 hours ago

      I cant seem to find anything about the image other than the twitter post, so I’m doubtful a about it for now

      Looks like it is real

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        I know they did atrocious shit to the people there. I haven’t seen this photo before or even anything like it outside of a Hollywood film.