This is why you should not install any of the vibe coded apps that get advertised in here regularly. You’re just creating a liability for yourself.

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    All things must pass. All things must pass away. ~ George Harrison

    I look back over the years when I first discovered there was a thing labeled a computer as a yongster. I remember the curmudgeons, scoffers, and nay sayers talking about how this ‘fad’ called ‘the computer’ and subsequently ‘the internet’ was all just a waste of time, and that all of us nerds and geeks would soon see the stark error of our ways. I even had an employer tell me, ‘Buy something off the internet? <scoff> No one will ever buy anything off the internet!’ and then he launched into a ‘Why, back in my day we …yadda yadda yadda’ diatribe.

    I look back and wonder how far along we’d be in solar power infrastructures had a lowly peanut farmer not been religiously and hatefully ridiculed for installing solar panels in the White House. Sure, they were inefficient but it was the concept, the idea, that yes this can work with some further tooling and technology. I look back even further in history and pick out Fulton’s Folly and how he was lambasted for his stupidity, thinking he could put a steam engine on a boat and make it a viable form of transportation. It became a huge boon to commerce and travel up and down the Mississippi, and subsequently spread to other areas. I think about our early steps into space travel and how there were massive amounts of vocal opponents to this waste of energy and tax dollars. Yet, even to this day, we still reap the rewards of that technology in our every day lives. So much so, that we never stop to think about it.

    I’m not here to say that AI in any of it’s many forms is the golden goose or the egg. It is fraught with problems, some of which are glaring, and it needs some heavy governmental regulation. I, like many others, have concerns about AI coded projects and the safety and security thereof. However, this knee jerk reaction to anything AI reminds me of so much of history, in that, the once disdained has now become so common place, as to be taken for granted.

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      Really, after all this years of computer technology and the internet, what good came out of it? That it can outweigh the bad.

      People are dumber and misinformed. Social media is a cesspit of fakeness and product advertisements. Software improves profitability and takes away jobs. Unparalleled potential for mass surveillance.

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      Computers make money. Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc all proved that. They can sell you products that people felt like did things for them. It didn’t make infinite money.

      How much money does ChatGPT make? How much money does Grok make? How much money does Copilot make? How much money does Claude make? LLMs and generative AI don’t make money. If they did, AI CEOs would be boasting about the massive profits coming in from AI.

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        LLMs and generative AI don’t make money.

        I would agree with you. At this juncture AI a loss leader, much like putting a man on the moon was a loss leader. How’s that technology benefiting you now? Significantly. I’m in no way glossing over the issues with AI. It has real world problems, and needs intervention, serious intervention.

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          AI was already doing good before ChatGPT and LLMs like folding proteins which shaped human history. I am really drilling down on LLMs and the sell to CEOs that generative AI can replace employees or that it is worth transforming the economy over. It’s not. Computers had a dotcom bubble which made computers useful by creating the infrastructure for engineers to be produced by universities and companies to use the networking tech. Its not like video games were keeping computers alive. See: Nvidia before bitcoin and ai made them the most valuable company ever

          LLMs wont be making anyones lives better any time soon. AI already did things for humanity before them. Computer neural networks existed before AI. It was called machine learning. Member the ML days before tech bros called it AI? I do.

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      “IA” have very few applications besides faking things. It fakes someone having read that mail, it fakes having wrote that mail, it fakes art, it fakes “helping you”, it instead do fake job for you.

      It’s the “IA” spite can look too spiteful, but there’s a key difference I think between “IA” and actually useful technologies: A computer helps you do things, not only work, better and faster, “IA” do it for you. You don’t “learn” to use an “IA”, you do have to learn to use internet and a computer.

      “IA” is less akin to something like a computer and more like NFT, Radium Watches, etc. “Innovation” for the sake of selling instead of progress. Has is uses? Of course, but it create far more problems that it tries or even cares to solve and it’s inclusion on everything just for the sake of selling just screams like plastic, radium, Teflon, lead on gasoline, etc. The promised miraculous new invention. Sooner or later we are going to pay for it. Again. All of us.

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        Since we are in a technology forum, a few quotes:

        LinuxFoundation

        “Frontier AI models have given defenders the ability to find and fix vulnerabilities in open source software at a speed and scale that were never possible before. That’s an enormous opportunity for defenders, and Akrites ensures we seize it together. Maintainers deserve a coordinated partnership, not a flood of reports. AWS is committed to securing the projects our customers depend on and building this shared infrastructure alongside the community.”

        – Matt Wilson, Vice President and Distinguished Engineer, Amazon Web Services

        “Open source projects collectively underpin much of the internet, and the existing model for coordinated disclosure has been outpaced by how quickly AI can now find vulnerabilities. Getting ahead of that requires the industry to coordinate on findings and get fixes upstream before they’re disclosed and exploited. Efforts like Akrites drive this level of coordination at the scale and speed this moment requires.”

        – Jason Clinton, Deputy Chief Information Security Officer, Anthropic

        “The software supply chain is only as strong as the upstream it draws from, and we see how thin that layer really is. As AI finds more vulnerabilities, the industry will rush to patch them. Without coordination, those fixes will fragment across different patches and forks, and maintainers who are already overwhelmed, unreachable, or haven’t touched a project in years. Akrites gives the industry one coordinated way to fix vulnerabilities upstream before they’re exploited, with maintainers still in control. Now the work is making sure there’s always someone on the other end to catch them.”

        Sooner or later we are going to pay for it. Again. All of us.

        Yes, we will pay for crawling out from the primordial ooze billions of years ago. Everything is finite.