https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001625-understanding-chatgpt-and-codex-usage-limits

Starting in December, Plus, Pro, and Business plans’ usage allowance will be shared across ChatGPT and Codex.

OpenAI confirms that:

  • ChatGPT and Codex will share a token-based allowance.
  • Instant chat will not consume this allowance.
  • More complex tasks and advanced models will consume more tokens.
  • Users can check their remaining allowance under Settings → Usage.
  • Users can purchase extra credits if they exhaust their allowance.

TL;DR - ChatGPT conversations that use advanced reasoning will compete with Codex for the same allowance. And it will be token based, rather then message / turn based. How many tokens? Fuck you, that’s how many. Want a coder and chat with a non brain dead LLM? Pick one.

So, if you’re thinking of re-upping your OpenCode Go or OpenRouter access (or you’re fortunate enough to have a rig that can run Qwen3.8 27B, Flash or the soon to be arriving Qwen 4’s), now’s the time to fuck off jippity.

Personally, I’m going to ditch it for OR credits and selective use of GLM, Kimi etc for code review. I don’t have the rig for a local GLM :(

Ride was always going to end but fortunately, open weight models are a thing.

Now if I could only run Qwen3.8-27b at not minutes-per-token…

  • [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 hours ago

    I’m running liquid d1 and clef.

    Clef is good, but like 30gb. I mostly use d1 as a reranker type model for search and it’s good for that. I haven’t found many reliable use cases yet for them.

        • Spite_By_Design_LLC@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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          11 hours ago

          I just don’t get it. Like…who’s buying these things in quantities vast enough to charge that much? Oh, I’ve heard Open AI snapped them and Mac Minis up in bulk for “testing” (whatever that means)… but given the cost now… why / who is buying them in quantities that warrant these sort of prices? It’s not as if they’re rare per se. Hell, there might even be a glut relative to actual demand. Yet, those prices…

          Human psychology is weird.

          • [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 hours ago

            I think it’s just the RAM prices? If you’re a reseller or training professionally renting or buying a b100 or something is way more powerful (but 100x the cost)