• P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      This is a load of shit. AGENTS.md is just a rules file for a repo like anything else. Properly-written rules files give good direction into how to interact with a project. If you don’t think it’s being read, ask the agent, and figure out why.

      Far too many of these LLM articles are:

      1. I did the thing
      2. The thing didn’t work for me
      3. Pretend it’s a hyper-scientific experiment and write an article about it
      4. Declare X is shit because my version of X is shit, or because most people don’t know how to make X.

      You don’t do the thing and pretend the first draft is going to work perfectly. You iterate, ask the agent directly why it didn’t work or what kind of improvements could be made, and improve the process.

      Most of the time when I’m running through a repetitive process with a skill, I ask, “hey, what pitfalls did we learn from this process and how can we improve this skill?” Boom, iteration.

      Also, Pivot-to-AI is just some guy’s anti-AI blog site. He does the same shit on YouTube.

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        It’s literally researchers doing research which the blog links to. Most of the AI booster stuff is completely unsubstantiated, and it turns out when you measure things they are often full of shit.

        • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Bad research is still bad. The main paper is 9 pages with wide margins, outside of references. This was a few college students publishing their CS research assignment. The “Limitations” section is rather telling:

          Another interesting avenue opened by this work is how to improve the automatic generation of useful context files.

          Okay, so they already admitted that they started with useless context files, which sabotages their own test.

          You know how you fix useless context files? You iterate until they are useful context files!

          This whole research paper is XKCD 385, except with AGENTS.md files.

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            I haven’t read the paper in dept, but these are deeply unserious reasons for disparaging it.

            Bad research is still bad. The main paper is 9 pages with wide margins, outside of references. This was a few college students publishing their CS research assignment

            The length of this paper entirely within the norm for scientific publications. In fact, depending on the type of paper, they can be much shorter. For example, Nature expects submissions at around 2500 words or around 4300 words, depending on the format, while this paper is around 4800 words long (excluding references and SI).

            The authors also obviously not “a few college students publishing their CS research assignment”: Gloaguen, Mündler, Raychev, Müller, and Vechev.

            The “Limitations” section is rather telling:

            Another interesting avenue opened by this work is how to improve the automatic generation of useful context files.

            Okay, so they already admitted that they started with useless context files, which sabotages their own test.

            You know how you fix useless context files? You iterate until they are useful context files!

            The entire point of the study was to see what kind of context files were useful and which were useless, which according to the authors was not something that had been done before:

            A widespread practice in software development is to tailor coding agents to repositories using context files, such as AGENTS.md. Although this practice is strongly encouraged by agent developers, there is currently no rigorous investigation into whether such context files are actually effective for real-world tasks. In this work, we study this question and evaluate coding agents’ task completion performance in two complementary settings

            They found that,

            while instructions in the context files are well followed by coding agents, repository overviews, although popular and recommended by model providers, are not helpful.

            So when you say that they “admitted that they started with useless context files”, you are referring to the results of the study. Complaining that they didn’t base their study on the conclusions of that very study is just absurd

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    As long as my system stays stable, and it is properly noted in the code, idk.

    If at this point every major codebase is using AI for development, and AI is unavoidable, might as well embrace it on your own terms.

    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      If at this point every major codebase is using AI for development, and AI is unavoidable, might as well embrace it on your own terms.

      Why? People use linux even though windows seems unavoidable, people use privacy respecting messaging services when everyone says to contact them on whatsapp, so many people use reddit, barely anybody uses lemmy

      If you cant completely avoid something, should you just give up on trying at all?

      Why are people giving something that is ruining the internet, politics, learning, the environment, jobs, art, mental health so much leniency