• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    they have their own ai

    They don’t make it:

    https://proton.me/blog/lumo-ai

    Lumo is based upon open-source language models and operates from Proton’s European datacenters. This gives you much greater transparency into the way Lumo works than any other major AI assistant. Unlike Apple Intelligence and others, Lumo is not a partnership with OpenAI or other American or Chinese AI companies, and your queries are never sent to any third parties. Our research and development will remain focused on open models, which we will continuously improve and augment.

    Per discussions online, it seems to be a mix of small Mistral and Olmo models, and GLM for the max tier.

    This’d be like arguing a company hosting database software to serve a product is a “database software company.” They are a hosting some tool made by someone else, with a sticker.

    they also have the most ridiculous brand fans.

    Perhaps. I’m a bit scared of how much critical mass they have, TBH. But this does not make them an AI company.

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      6 days ago

      https://lumo.proton.me/

      “Meet Lumo, the zero-access encrypted AI assistant by Proton”

      I had a 2 year subscription with proton, I walked away from it with more than a year remaining. The ai and the right wing thing is just the tip of the iceberg, but I don’t live to supply links and proof to proton fanboys (which is how this always goes), so all I suggest is that people pay attention to protons social media (reddit in particular) for a while before giving them your money and trusting them with your details, emails etc. If people cannot be bothered putting some effort into their choices, so be it, not my problem.

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        6 days ago

        You are not wrong to be suspicious. I am suspicious of them TBH, we will see how they go.

        But to be a bit more specific, I’m just saying that if one labels every company that provides a branded chatbot UI (or similar) as an “AI company,” that is an awfully big bucket. It’s basically any company that buys LLM usage for any user facing kind of purpose, and that is going to include a lot of otherwise great companies/projects that are not really “AI companies.”