It is so difficult to find modern electronics without telemetry and ads. Smartphones, laptops, TVs, home routers, security cameras, cars, game consoles, e-readers, projectors, 3D printers, fitness trackers, speakers, and even some printers. Why can’t customers be free from this data collection and advertising? It’s not that we don’t care about it. There simply aren’t many alternatives, and the few that do exist are either more expensive or offer fewer features. Seriously, we need a list of products we can buy and use directly without worrying about telemetry or advertising.

The following list is updated at https://lemmy.ml/post/52706206. Please note that this list may contain errors.

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  • eleijeep@piefed.socialEnglish
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    10 hours ago

    Your post history:

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    I’m subscribed to all of these communities, so in my feed it appears as spam. Could you please stop?

  • morto@piefed.socialEnglish
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    10 hours ago

    On many areas, you can escape ads and telemetry by simply buying from smaller, often overlooked, brands, who often make cheaper products. A lot of them won’t even have internet connectivity or will lack the surplus processing power to run such things, all while being better than expected as products

  • zikzak025@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 hours ago

    I’d take Framework off of the list on principle due to their (still unapologetic) financial support for Hyprland and Omarchy, which are projects run by far right racists.

    I’d also take Pixel + Graphene off of the list. The situation there is precarious to say the least, as Google is trying to do everything they can to invalidate the security of Graphene on their devices. Might still be fine and reliable now, but I can’t say with confidence what the situation will look like in a year or two. Plus purchasing the device still financially supports Google.

    • ComradeMiao@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 hours ago

      Plus purchasing the device still financially supports Google.

      You can purchase used devices, stop. Also, any smart phone company is as bad as Google, what’re you typing this on? Your mind?

      • zikzak025@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 hours ago

        At the moment, I’m typing this on a desktop I built actually, but sure we can jump straight to the defeatist route.

        Like it or not, Graphene is currently trapped in the ecosystem called “Pixel”, and promoting the former necessitates an investment in the latter, whether it be directly or indirectly. Graphene is working to change that, and I hope they succeed soon, but I’m not eager to buy even a used Pixel when Google’s doing everything in their power to backdoor the shit out of them with their proprietary OOTB firmware.

        • illusionist@lemmy.zip
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          10 hours ago

          Your point is valid but using grapheneos outweighs the negative effect of supporting google. An alternative for many would be to buy an iphone. Just buy the pixel and support gos. Currently, there is no other alternative that is ready for most consumers.

          We all want linux phones but we don’t even have state of the art linux tablet (on arm let alone risc v).

          • zikzak025@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            10 hours ago

            But it’s not just the financial support of Google, it’s also the integrity of their devices as a secure platform on which to run GrapheneOS.

            I mean, you already can’t use GrapheneOS if you get a Pixel 11 because of the deliberately excluded MTE support by Google. You can’t guarantee the longevity of a project if its survival depends on hardware and firmware choices made by a company that is incentivized to kill it.