Stolen from 4chan. What do you think?
I’m not disabling my adblocker. That shit is unsafe.
Demanding I disable my ad blocker is a pretty good way to disable my interest in visiting the site.
I think you should stop using 4chan x
Disable my adblocker?
No, I don’t think I will.
I imagine this is why the page specific off button in uBlockOrigin is really big; to allow more of the pseudo-random menu detectivery that happens in this situation to find it instead of disabling uBO completely in the settings.
But this theory kind of insinuates people who don’t care about not being advertised to are dumb (or maybe I just thunk that, because I think you have to try knowing things about browsers to be smart).
Cloudflare is a cancer upon the internet.
Yes but AI being the cancer on cancer made companies who didn’t previously have to use cloudflare turn to cloudflare to prevent the inscessent constant DDOSing of AI users and companies.
Oh my god yes. I fucking hate Cloudflare. Everything about it is just awful and unfortunately so many websites are using it now.
+1.
I. Fucking. Hate. Cloudflare.
It’s such a huge % of the internet now. Intercepted by cloudflare. Which says I “passed”. But then, gets stuck in an endless reload loop back to the cloudflare page. And never forwards me to the site itself.
Sometimes it does work. But at least half the sites, it doesn’t. Totally normal things. Like recipe sites. Or a site cataloging vintage toys.
This shit is making the internet unusable for anyone who tries to keep their privacy from the co’s that track every click you ever make, every site you read. I get it, sites need protection against DDOS attacks and stuff. But there has got to be a way w/o so much collateral damage.
It’s probably because of resistFingerprinting in about:config.
Unfortunately sites need to use them or someone similar to not get attacked to shit by AI bots. Websites could turn off the challenges (which are that captcha) so Cloudflare just absorbs DDoS attacks, then use the open source Cap inside the site on things like the log in page and comments instead.
It’s probably because of resistFingerprinting in about:config.
I have it set to false, though… 🤔
Weird thing is it fails on pages infected with cloudflare (says browser not supported), but cloudflare’s own test page claims everything works properly.
It must have something to do with NoScript, but I have everything remotely related to cloudflare set to trusted, so I don’t know what.
Works in incognito mode, but I don’t want to navigate the webwithout ad blocking.
You can enable ublock (or any extension) to run in incognito mode too (edit: my mostly default ublock settings play fine with cloudflare)
comparisons like these reveal how often companies take advantage of people through rhetoric, when the majority dont know much
not ever using that site anymore strategy no %
True about Javascript since almost all webpages nowadays use it and all use cloudflare as well. But since when does the Cloudflare verification need you to disable adblocker? It never happens with me. I am using Ublock Origins.
It doesn’t. Some webpages have redirects that instruct you to enable javascript, disable ad blockers and disable vpn. But that makes the ‘joke’ fall flat.
I wonder if anyone even disables ad blockers when they see the actual message because even if I might enable js, I’ve never, not once, disabled ad blocker or vpn at a website’s behest.
see, the moment that i see an ad is when i re-enable my adblock. at the latest.
If a site doesn’t work with adblock enables I don’t use it. I never turn that shit off. There is nothing on the internet I need to look at badly enough to do that. If the entire internet stopped working with adblockers I’d stop using it.
I sometimes get fandom stuck on that for a bit but refreshing always solves it so I’m not bothered.
I highly recommend using independent wikis, as they often have better info, and they don’t support Fandom, which is a pretty awful company.
IndieWikiBuddy is great for switching over :3
I just enable captcha.cloudflare, not all JS
Don’t think I’ve had an adblocker mess with the verification, but I often have to green-light a few things for cloudfare (or other verifier) in uMatrix.
uMatrix was awesome. It’s a massive shame it didn’t get any more updates, because it started breaking important sites (like bank authentication) for me just by the addon being enabled even if I turned it off from its own toggle, so I had to switch to NoScript, which is simply worse (far clunkier interface and consistently fails to show all domains).
I do not bother myself with websites that use cloudflare anymore.
So like, 75% of the web?
Unironically, yes. If there was no alternative, I access the archived version. This is not by choice, my browser for some reason cannot process cloudflare captchas.
reasonable tbf
For me, this is evidence that I am navigating to a page that I don’t need to navigate to.
Sadly, all of the small shops in my country for electronics and hobby stuff all have these pages (you don’t need to disable your adblocker for cloudflare challenges) because of AI. They didn’t have them a year and a half ago.
Ai companies have been DDOSing all small websites so badly that they have to use this (or Anubis) in order to actually have a usable website for actual humans.
And if you need to use the side?
Most alternative pages nowadays use the same techniques as wellm
now i kmow AI is awful for just about everything, but one thing they’ve got going for them is that they may be able to summarize any page on the internet and bypass all manner of restrictions. alternatively there’s also the google web archive which shares googlebot findings (often whitelisted) or other archival sites, or reader mode
i absolutely agree. Sometimes I am wondering why the AI can access all pages (even local ones or open models hosted on other servers), but I am marked as a robot every time 😅 Who’s the robot?
Yeah I’d rather just load a different page.
Not disabling my adblocker for any reason.
Honestly on ublock for most websites it’s pretty easy to just delete the “turn off your adblocker” popup. Some websites genuinely won’t work with an adblocker on though unfortunately.
I do this first. If it doesn’t work then I like those above your comment just go elsewhere. If they are the only one then I wait for it to show up on an archive site. If I actually need it then I break out the day job skills and write up custom adblock scripts to bypass their detection. I’ll spend hours doing it out of spite. Then I write up scripts that clear my cache and refresh the page over and over and over when I’m not using my PC to drive up their hosting costs.
Plenty of other pages on the www : )
Or it’s time to check the way back machine or archive.is
Archive.is is the worst offender for this. The only page I can’t get to load, just keeps showing the goddamn cloudflare and refreshing back to it.
I’ve had that happen to me on archive.is 🙃
