I don’t personally have Google Play Services installed but I can see how devastating this could be to open source on Android.

Just to clarify:

Will my apps installed from F-droid be unaffected by this?

I do too. But I have this illusion about Debian that everything is perfect, authoritative and dignified, which it is of course and then I am struck by this kind of candid resentment and bitterness in apt like a bolt out of the blue. I just don’t what to think any more.

I’ll cry if I want to.

Yeah. Never seen actual ranting in apt though - it caught me off guard.

I have to use a windows machine at work and without fail I have to restart it by early afternoon because it has nearly ground to a halt. Usually right when a client turns up and wants to see their work.

It’s an absolute embarrassment.

“I take full responsibility for my Arch install” is one of my favourite lines from a linux youtuber.

Yes, I’ve updated to 25.06 which I think is the latest version. I was also having some issues with waking from suspend but they are fixed now I can manage the lid switch in Coreboot.

I was also experiencing your same issue, just tried @[email protected]’s recommendation, and my computer shut off completely as desired.

Which recommendation?

If they still wanted to use ‘AI’ to summarise or interrogate it, they could then pass that text to something like Jan on their own hardware.

Star Labs Starbook mk7, ‘made for linux’, pas moins.

Ah OK got you 👍

How do I do that? Bearing in mind the display is off when this happens.

I’m not familiar with using logs but looking at them now and filtering for the word ‘failed’, most of the entries around shutdown contain “dbus-daemon[1248]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit ‘dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service’: Refusing activation, D-Bus is shutting down.”

There are also a couple of “fwupd[2375]: 17:22:25.596 FuPluginUpower failed to query lid state”

And one of these: “NetworkManager[1332]: <warn> [1757956947.0782] dispatcher: (51) failed (after 0.004 sec): Refusing activation, D-Bus is shutting down.”

Does any of that shed light on the problem?

Not recently. When the laptop was new I had Fedora on it which was worse. Then I switched to Debian when Trixie came out and it’s been much better but still happens occasionally. Over time I have tried different settings in Coreboot though - perhaps I should reset everything there to defaults.

Unfortunately not. A couple of times I’ve shut down and closed the lid and come back a couple of hours later to find the fan still going…

I use YUNOhost on a VPS and it came with email out of the box. Which is just as well because I had no previous experience self-hosting!

I think I had a couple of emails get marked as spam in the beginning but everything has been totally fine for the last 2/3 years.

The last I heard Youtube actually makes a loss in terms of cost and ad revenue but is worth maintaining because of the user data it makes available to its parent company. The low ethical standards and backing of one of the worlds biggest corporations allow it to outcompete any alternative.

If we’re serious about dealing with the problem we need to deal with antitrust and privacy.

I doubt they will do it but video creators need to organise and put pressure on government to enforce the law on this.

Yes it does.

Cyberdecks are 1) pocketable 2) computing devices 3) often wireless, and 4) run Linux.

That’s what people want from phones, so I figured it was a valid contribution to the discussion.

I guess not…