

But even that isn’t really enough…we need laws on training data.


But even that isn’t really enough…we need laws on training data.


I’m not sure the law is as settled as you’re making it out to be here… We’re still watching a lot of these questions slowly trickle up the courts.
In my opinion, the idea that someone can feed a bunch of unlicensed copyrighted material as input into a generative AI meat grinder and produce public domain outputs doesn’t really pass the smell test to me.
For example, could I take use an LLM trained on GPL code to rewrite Linux in a legally distinct way, and then treat it as permissive or proprietary code after minor modifications? Likewise, can you train an LLM on someone else’s proprietary code and rewrite it as a GPL program?
This sort of copyright/license laundering seems like an existential threat to the way that copyleft FOSS has existed for decades. I think it makes a lot of sense to be extremely cautious and skeptical of AI-generated code submissions.
Edit: I also want to point out that the issue of whether or not it can be considered “fair use” to train generative AI models on unlicensed copyrighted works is very much an open question. If it was determined that it isn’t always fair use, then I don’t know what that might mean for many of the existing models that have been trained that way, or the outputs that they produce.


Workplace theater comes to the shitter.


Remember folks, age verification is personal identity verification.


I’m gonna disagree with you. I think it’s only gotten dumber with things like Robinhood and communities like wallstreetbets.


This stock market is so unbelievably detached from reality it’s not even funny anymore. It’s all “meme stocks”.
At least back in the day there was the thinnest guise of this stuff having some semblance of a connection to the ground-level economics of business. (You know, old fashioned stuff like employing people to make products and selling them for a profit.) My parents generation could at least be forgiven for believing that it was driven by serious people making logical decisions about money…
But today it’s just so clearly based on vibes, algorithms, hype, and an unhealthy dose of total randomness that you might as well get into cryptocurrency or take your paycheck to the casino.
The whole thing stinks. It’s like one giant ponzi scheme fueled by ketamine and hopium.


Even when I was earning £8k several years ago I was able to comfortably keep a few thousand in the bank.
That wouldn’t even cover a year’s rent with roommates where I live, never mind food, taxes, hygiene products, utilities, transportation, and all of the other basic needs for a single person to eek out a meager existence.
Now, maybe you weren’t paying for those things because someone else in your life was, and that’s fine… But that’s also a huge privilege–not the kind of support system that everybody has access too. What about the people who have kids or other dependents?
The fact is that a lot of people in the USA are truly living “paycheck to paycheck”, and they have little to no money to dedicate to savings each month.


Definitely. This isn’t about physical “cash”, this is about all liquidity across cash, checking and savings accounts. From the survey itself:
Most have little to no cushion. 14% of Americans have no cash savings, including 32% of those earning less than $30,000 a year, 20% of women and 16% of Gen Zers. Additionally, another 32% have some savings but less than $1,000. Almost half (45%) wouldn’t be able to cover more than a month of essentials if their income stopped, while just 21% could cover essentials for more than six months.
Almost half of Americans are a couple paychecks away from homelessness. It’s dire.
Plagiarism and creative exploitation on an unprecedented industrialized scale.


Oops I don’t care!
None of these AI kids are gonna know how to do anything anyway.


“Open weights” isn’t worth a shit either.
If you don’t have the access to training data or the computational power to bake it into a model, you are beholden to somebody’s (or rather, some corporation’s) binary blob. We’re talking about the difference between freeware and FOSS effectively.
Not that it matters because all of thin generative AI stuff is for talentless tech bro chuds in the first place…


I kind of disagree. How can you be certain a person in is a certain age without determining who that person is?
The local AI concept is flawed, as is anything that relies on trusting the user.
If you want to be certain that someone is over 18 at some point you need a government ID or birth certificate, and at that point you know a hell of a lot more about them than their age.
This is identity verification.


What’s their motivation? “Protecting the children” from pictures of boobs?
Doubtful.
Instead, I think the AI companies are looking for ways to more easily distinguish human-made “content” from bot-made content, in order to decrease the amount of generative slop that ends up being fed back into their training data.


Very effective satire. I wish I would have thought of it.
I’ve been pointing at this problem for at least 2 years now to deaf ears, satire like this will force people to listen.


Anyone who thinks the people at Coke’s marketing department even know vaguely what the fediverse is are delusional.


That’s awful… Sounds like you could use a pick-me-up, and nothing beats the crisp, invigorating taste of an ice-cold Coca-Cola!


From a distance, it all seems very intentional to me.
I guess. But shrinking the scope of their products doesnt exactly inspire the idea of infinite growth.
Honestly, I have not seen anyone who values art “be ok with” generative AI.
The only people who think it is even remotely cool are lazy programmers with no friends.