I understand. I mean, I appreciate that you acknowledged the discrepancy and rescinded.

thanks for owning up to the error. appreciated.

I’m confused. You are now agreeing that you wanted to see how much. But then why did you say this:

I knew from the title that Grokipedia would be garbage.

Why do we need to know how much it stinks?

Well, the sidebar says this:

A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype

It seems to me like making a post exploring just how bad exactly grokipedia is should fit here? Am I mistaken? What is even the point of this community if this is not a good fit?

Sure. But my point is, If a human wrote this, I’d say it’s a poor editing choice to include this information on an article about an athlete. Perhaps if she had a publicly-documented stroke then this could be relevant (albeit still quite speculative). But it’s not even relevant.

If you already knew what your opinion was going to be, why did you bother to click?

in fairness, I would say Conservapedia is even worse than Grokipedia. I can barely read any random paragraph of Conservapedia without wanting to destroy my internet connection. Grokipedia at least has lucid sections, an opiate to mask the hideousness.

Everyone here is either on the side of hating big AI companies or hating IP law. I proudly hate both.

Personally, I have P(AGI within 10 years) around 15%. I think anyone who is saying definitely no or definitely yes to AGI within this time frame is vastly overconfident in their understanding of the technology, one way or the other. Or they vastly underestimate the utility of bullshit. Of course, I also have P(doom|AGI) probably around 40-70%.

What is the problem with techno-solutionism? Is it just that under capitalism techno-solutionism often results in corruption? Is the development of lemmy not techno-solutionism (to the enshittification of reddit)?

hmm, I added GApps to my LineageOS, which includes Google Play Services.

You can use LineageOS on your existing non-pixel android phone, instead of purchasing a pixel.

this is exactly why google should have been broken up.

I use LineageOS. Will this affect me? I’m getting unclear answers. Someone told me that the apps will be forced to verify the OS.

that’s very pragmatic, but you can also flip this around – almonds are a luxury compared to other more practical foods, whereas LLMs can help a coder net an income if used properly. I don’t think you can justify almonds if you’re going to claim AI usage is unethical on purely environmental grounds. And dairy milk is twice as much as almond milk in terms of water, so if you have dairy in your diet, cutting that out is going to be a lot more effective for reducing your water footprint than not using LLMs.

Anyway, check out the third link for more info on the total water usage of data centers; it doesn’t really add up to much compared to much larger things like golf courses. I don’t get why anyone would use water usage as a reason to agitate against AI for given that there are so many worse problems AI is causing.

But remember, one almond uses at least as much water as two requests to ChatGPT (sources: almonds, queries, data centers), so if you’re eating almonds at all then you’re being inconsistent.

It’s true, I fear AGI, not the current state of AI if it were to remain frozen and not improve at all. I am also not terribly afraid of climate change if the climate were to remain fixed at this point. Sure, we have lots of forest fires, and people are dying of heat, but it could get much worse.

I think maybe the root of our disagreement is that we’re appraising the current state of AI differently. I’m looking at AI now vs AI five years ago and seeing an orders-of-magnitude increase in how powerful it is – still not as good as a human, but no longer negligible – but you’re looking at both of these and rounding them to zero, calling it snake oil. Perhaps, in the Gartner hype cycle, you’re in the trough of disillusionment?

I don’t want to be a shill for big AI here, but I reject the idea that AI in its current state is useless (though I would agree it’s overhyped and probably detrimental to society overall). It’s capable of doing a lot of trivial labour that previously was not automatable, including coding tasks and graphics, and while it can’t do it with great reliability, or anywhere near as well as a human expert, and it’s much worse in some areas than others (AI-written news articles are much worse than useless, for instance), it’s still turning out to be a productivity benefit (read: reduction in jobs) for those who know how to use it to its strengths. I think the “snake oil” aspect is when lay-people are using it expecting it to be reliable or as good as a human – which is basically how big tech is pitching it.

I think we’re looking at this from completely different angles if you are "hope"ful that AI will improve.

Also, you’re looking at AI completely wrong if you’re analyzing its performance on traditional CS problems in terms of time complexity. Nobody credible is hoping that AI is going to be solving NP problems just by feeding the problem into its context window like a quarter into a vending machine.

I don’t think it’s ready to put anyone out of a job. But if you’re not worried about AI, then why bother being in the fuck-AI community? Like, why agitate about AI at all if you think it’s all snake oil.

They are For-profit

Reminder that FOSS is compatible with commercial licenses.

That is not to say /e/ is FOSS. But given the reality of the capitalist hellscape we live in, we should not shame developers (FOSS or not) for not opting to work for free.