fuck me lemmy is turning into an absolute reddit-esque cesspool shithole.
i do not understand why people are in here simping for cloudflare (presumably unpaid) do they have money in cloudflare? clearly they don’t have a fucking clue whats really going on in the world, but what makes them think they need to actively enforce (ie. downvote people) for pointing out issues with cloudflare??
this is beyond weird.
Sorry for my poor phrasing, perhaps re-read my post? i’m entirely supporting your argument. Perhaps your main point aligns most with my #3? It could be argued they’ve already begun from a position of probable bad faith by taking this data from users in the first place.
TLDR edit: I’m supporting the above comment - ie. i do not support apple’s actions in this case.
It’s definitely good for people to learn a bit about homomorphic computing, and let’s give some credit to apple for investing in this area of technology.
That said:
Encryption in the majority of cases doesn’t actually buy absolute privacy or security, it buys time - see NIST’s criteria of ≥30 years for AES. It will almost certainly be crackable <oneday> either by weakening or other advances… How many people are truly able to give genuine informed consent in that context?
Encrypting something doesn’t always work out as planned, see example:
“DON’T WORRY BRO, ITS TOTALLY SAFE, IT’S ENCRYPTED!!”
Yes Apple is surely capable enough to avoid simple, documented, mistakes such as above, but it’s also quite likely some mistake will be made. And we note, apple are also extremely likely capable of engineering leaks and concealing it or making it appear accidental (or even if truly accidental, leveraging it later on).
Whether they’d take the risk, whether their (un)official internal policy would support or reject that is ofc for the realm of speculation.
That they’d have the technical capability to do so isn’t at all unlikely. Same goes for a capable entity with access to apple infrastructure.
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can you please explain in a little more depth? are you saying pluton is basically dead in the water and is likely to disappear from implementations in silicon in the near future?
that’s great buddy. but while recapping basic IT facts might make you feel smart on facebook. this is lemmy where the average user 1 is perfectly familiar the principles. here it just telegraphs to us that you didn’t read the fucking article (which would’ve taken less time than spamming the thread & insulting users btw).
1 before the influx of reddit api refugees - on that topic do you ever reflect on how corporate bootlicking might relate to the over-corporatisation of reddit which led to users fleeing? only to come here and do unpaid simping for the corporations, slowly ruining this place too?
perhaps dial back the attitude a bit there? if you think you know better than someone (even if you’re wrong), then you should have no trouble kindly educating instead of insulting them.
you may also wish to revisit your highly questionable claim that graphene properly configured on pixel is less secure than stock rom on some random android device.
yes but the main point is anyone can pick it up again.
with proprietary it’s most often significantly more difficult and legally fraught if not near-impossible.
+1 for the lockbox idea. with appropriate selection it could also provide (varying degrees of) electromagnetic shielding. useful in general, and increasingly as the line for actual device shutdown becomes more and more blurry.
pretty much, but its really crossing some thresholds lately which i find impressive
freecad is actually getting fucking good for the price
my guess is its just another flavour of cope.
imo likely because recent history has began to undermine the delusions which were propping up the former flavour.
so what they’re really saying is they won’t give it away for free
yes, as i said
from the article it’s not clear what the performance boost is relative to intrinsics
(they don’t make that comparison in the article)
so its not clear exactly how handwritten asm compares to intrinsics in this specific comparison. we can’t assume their handwritten AVX-512 asm and instrinics AVX-512 will perform identically here, it may be better, or worse.
also worth noting they’re discussing benchmarking of a specific function, so overall performance on executing a given set of commands may be quite different depending what can and can’t be unrolled and in which order for different dependencies.
from the article it’s not clear what the performance boost is relative to intrinsics (its extremely unlikely to be anything close to 94x lol), its not even clear from the article if the avx2 implementation they benchmarked against was instrinsics or handwritten either. in some cases avx2 seems to slightly outperform avx-512 in their implementation
there’s also so many different ways to break a problem down that i’m not sure this is an ideal showcase, at least without more information.
to be fair to the presenters they may not be the ones making the specific flavour of hype that the article writers are.
for sure, its perfectly reasonable to say “this tool isn’t useful for me”
its another thing to say “this tool isn’t useful for anyone”
nice.
can usually get a pretty good performance increase with hand writing asm where appropriate.
don’t know if its a coincidence, but i’ve never seen someone who’s good at writing assembly say that its never useful.
hey man, i think you may have misinterpreted who i was replying to /what i was saying, or perhaps i didn’t communicate perfectly.
i am 10,000% on your side with this, and very much appreciate your post and appreciate your support in this thread/community on this topic. it’s actually giving me a tiny bit of hope that this community isn’t entirely lost.
i’ve really grown absolutely weary of the ridiculous denialism in society and especially in so-called tech communities on this topic.
the kindest thing i think you could say about the rampant denialism is they emotionally do not want to believe it could be happening, and therefore all rationality has gone out the window.
these threads are always a circle jerk of denialists repeating popular media headlines which say “its not happening”, and then if you read the article IT DOESN’T SAY THAT AT ALL. and these denialists WON’T EVEN FUCKING READ THE ARTICLES THEY POST.
apart from the emotional cope, perhaps also partial exposure to eg. basic consumer stuff like installing steam or downloading a movie, so they assume the bandwidth is too high to exfiltrate audio cos their music/game/movie audio files are big, completely ignoring the fact that the telecomms industry has put many decades and $ into producing efficient voice codecs for around 50 years now. they probably think nyquist is a brand of cough medicine
same goes for all the other erroneous ‘consumer tech’ false facts they parrot back and forth.
eg. the lunacy of saying the tired old statement “if they were listening ALL THE TIME, we’d know” completely ignoring threshold based noise gates have been a thing for well over half a century.
these self-proclaimed know-it-alls can’t even put in 10 minutes reading BASIC topics in an encylopedia to realise this shit was solved over half a century ago. (actually you don’t even need tech knowledge or an encylopedia to imagine such a fundamental thing as…i don’t know…not recording when nothings happening 🤯). they can’t put in even BASIC effort, yet are SOOO smug in not only telling us “its absolutely not happening”, but they actually can’t wait to be rude and ridicule randoms for even asking the question.
correct.
the level of unsubstantiated cope in this thread is mind boggling. from people many of whom should honestly know better.
open source won the battle. now the corporations hope to win the war.
imo part of that involves squeezing & disrupting the volunteers and their communities. often by amplifying and pressuring existing issues.
meanwhile, the corporations can then throw their ample resources at steering things towards their selfish objectives