In the old days the viruses would just put a skull up on your screen or some other nonsense.

Now the virus hides and they track everything you do and steal all your passwords and banking information.

It’s better for them to not go loud. Otherwise they’ll be discovered. And the point is to stay hidden as long as possible to collect as much data as possible.

Most people don’t know their computers are infected.

I don’t disagree with that. Why leave that to the market which doesn’t optimize for anything other than more money and whos actions are opaque? Happy, healthy, and productive societies cost money, money that can be spent elsewhere. Slavery is efficient and profitable.

If some organization is going to have the power to make or break me, I want them to be transparent and democratic. Not a rich person who has never worked in their life trying to make more money using whatever means they can get away with.

What? Yes, the environment can tell because there would be less pollution. The motivations are different. Do you think worker controlled industries would use the same tactics to over produce and polute the areas the workers live in? No one would benefit from that.

I’m not saying we would reach zero pollution but there would be a lot less pollution.

I have no problem with running water and electricity, most reasonable socialist would agree.

American healthcare is capitalist. It’s insurance companies and for profit hospitals. That’s why it’s bad. Healthcare is an inelastic demand.

China isn’t a Democratic State. I’m not arguing that just having one guy handling all the economic planning is a good idea.

There’s a difference between industrialization for people and trade versus industrialization for money and power. One helps everyone, The other only helps capitalists.

I wouldn’t necessarily look at China and USSR and say they are a good alternative. I prefer a more democratic socialism. My problem with capitalism is specifically the lack of choice of the people. We spend 8 out of 12 hours on average working for a company that we don’t get a vote in.

Yeah, so we take AI out of companies who only want to make money even if it hurts people and give it to a democratic elected government which will use it to help people or they will be voted out

We can choose a less shitty power structure if we want.

So we can have solar and nuclear oligarchs instead of oil oligarchs. Yeah, that would be slightly better

How old are you? Did you go through COVID? Capitalism doesn’t do disasters well at all. Every cost is minimized. So emergency supplies go unmaintained. If it doesn’t help the stock price annually it doesn’t get done.

Industrialization to make money is encouraged by capitalism. Why do you think big oil was lying about global warming? It’s not a few bad apples it is a systemic drive to make more money even if it hurts people or the planet.

Oh, we can use it. We can use it to replace your job and make our boss more money. We just think that is bad.

Yes, but AI porn, which is really bad, is actually a small problem compared to the other uses of AI under capitalism.

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Yeah, the only outcome I can see from this is everyone is given a choice to stay and shut up or leave if they disagree with the new direction. Most will chose, the people who stay behind to cause trouble will be removed shortly after and then business will return to normal.

Na, I would be trying to the least amount of work possible.

Small easily contained/extinguished fire starts on a porch.

“I’m sorry ma’am we can’t stop it. This is going to be a total loss.”

You forgot about asking your employees to bring their own toilet paper. That saves a couple bucks.

This person needs to get help. I doubt more than one or two women are laughing at him, if there is anyone laughing at all.

Who has time to do this while driving?

Generational wars doesn’t do anyone any favors.

Good question.

Ok, so let’s say the artist does exactly what the AI does, in that they don’t try to do anything unique, just looking around at existing content and trying to mix and mash existing ideas. No developing of their own style, no curiosity of art history, no humanity, nothing. In this case I would say that they are mechanically doing the exact same thing as an AI is doing. Do I think I they should get payed. Yes! They spent a good chunk of their life developing this skill, they are a human, they deserve to get their basic needs met and not die of hunger or exposure. Now, this is a strange case because 99.99% of artists don’t do this. Most develop a unique style and add life experience in their art to generate something new.

A Software Engineer can profit off their AI model by selling it. If they are make money by generating images, then they are making money off of hard working artists that should be payed for their work. That isn’t great. The outcome of allowing this is that art will no longer be something you can do to make a living. This is bad for society.

It also should be noted that a Software Engineer making an AI model from scratch is 0.01% of the AIs being used. Most people, lay people, who have spent very little time developing art or Software Engineering skills can easily use an existing model to create “art”. The result of this is that many talented artists that could bring new and interesting ideas to world are being out competed by one guy with a web browser producing sub-par sloppy work.

For personal or public use, I’m fine with it. If you use it to make money, that’s when I get upsetti spaghetti.

I still think a good chunk of the code will be visible. You can have all the code up to the point where you call the proprietary function. Obviously you won’t get to see what’s inside that function but you can guess. Also, a lot of proprietary libraries have that functionality really well documented.