The sad thing is that a good amount of these guys aren’t actually working for the state. A lot of them are actually immigrants who left Russia for more opportunities, but are still rampant nationalist attempting to damage the countries that gave them a new home.

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Are another two just off the top of my head.

Hamas came to power after winning an election in 2006.

And that election happened in a complete vacuum… No need to add context to why Palestinians in 06’ would be voting for Hamas.

Also 2006 was nearly 20 years ago, the vast majority of the people who voted for Hamas are dead or have migrated away. 50% of the population in Gaza are under 18.

He’s just a conservative troll. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to any of his opinions.

My condolences, dealing with shitty parents is always hell. He sounds like a real piece of shit.

My partner’s father has a similar second family scenario going on still and he’s like in his late 70s. Never understood how these dudes found the energy to be that much of an asshole.

Ouch, would have imagined they had already separated. This screams divorced man energy.

Same to you!

what do you suppose the Taliban would have done to those same people and more if the US had not pulled out when Trump told them we would?

I don’t really think slowing down a pull out a few weeks or even months would really upset the Taliban anymore than what we had already done, I mean we’ve been there for more than a decade.

The point would be that it would have given more time for people to make their way to the airbase, and for more than just a couple airplanes full of people evacuate.

The only reason the Taliban was able to capture Kabul so quickly is because they and the security forces knew that the US wasn’t providing any air cover.

Eh, I guess it’s a matter of opinion. To me knowingly finishing your opponents mistake is worse than making an honest one yourself.

I may be a little biased though, as I have had the opportunity to provide healthcare to a few of the Afghan interpreters that were lucky enough to evacuate and make it state side.

I work in orthopedics and rehabilitation, so they had all been pretty banged up, missing limbs, or had lower limbs injuries that affected their mobility. But their personal injuries were nothing compared to how much uncertainty they faced about not knowing about the well being of extended family and friends still in Afghanistan, a home they will likely never have the chance to ever visit again.

don’t see how this is laid on Biden since Trump agreed to the withdrawal and timeline

Trump made the original withdrawal date and Biden arbitrarily stuck to it when he came into office.

He was under no real obligation to stick to the timeline and it was a betrayal to every Afghan citizen that worked with us. I don’t really care what Republicans bitch and moan about.

Feel like that speech would have meant more when he still had the power to do anything about it. Instead of going to war against this oligarchy he chose to cash his political capital on a rushed pull out of Afghanistan, and to kill a bunch of Palestinians.

Because you’re just a white American troll who likes to pretend they’re from the East.

Judging by our interaction on another thread where you tried to explain Chinese culture to an ethnically Chinese person… And then accuse them of not being Chinese enough because they live in America… I’m guessing you aren’t exactly an expert.

Brave of you to delete all those after I called you out.

No? What did I say that made you think I’m a trump supporter? I’m criticizing folks for celebrating harm coming to their fellow Americans.

Mostly it’s the regurgitation of radical propaganda…

No? I’m honestly not sure I understand your question about the civil war.

The civil war parallel was made because you are parroting propaganda that’s been endemic in the South for the last 150 years. That the war wasn’t about slavery, that the North just hated rural people’s culture.

The parallel throws me off because the point I’m making is Dems are maybe not “just as racist” as Rs but the fact they’re proving latinos were seen as pawns to be used when the Dems platform was basically everything Rs wanted while Trump was in office (minus family separations.

Ahh yes, because a minority of of internet strangers have some bad takes, the two parties are basically the same…except for the little caveat of family separation and interment camps thing, and even though Trump’s main campaign promise was to immediately deport everyone he can…

There’s certainly parallels to the civil war, the Northerners absolutely did not like it when free black American citizens first started to move there when fleeing terrorism I’m the South.

And how is that a parallel to modern times? Pretty sure there were sanctuary cities all over during Trump’s first presidency.

That’s how we got red-lining and the modern for-profit prison system.

You’re talking about two separate times in history separated by a hundred years of lived history. After the civil war, before conservatives torpedos reconstruction, black Americans actually gained a lot of economic and political power. Redlining and the modern prison system were a reactionary response by conservatives to desegregation.

I am absolutely not doing what you’re saying. Let me know how I came off that way. I’m trying to be as specific as possible here. People that are celebrating bad things happening to their fellow Americans. Stop. That’s it. That is gross, to me.

You just so happen to be parroting several different pieces of propaganda used to falsely equivocate the both sides argument popular among accelerationists and radical conservatives…Interesting.

Our people didn’t vote. Because of that we celebrate latinos being deported?

Who is our people?

Wish this could be a light conversation. This is truly not that serious. It’s a chat on fuckin lemmy (imagine this place is huge one day. lol)

I wish we could just have a light conversation about the fascist said the German to the Jews…

It’s almost like even tangentially supporting fascism isnt a light hearted conversation?

Show your true colors y’all! Finally, you can stop pretending you truly care about struggling Americans that don’t share the same values as you

By values, you mean supporting a violent and openly fascist political party whose main goal is to hunt migrants to deport?

Hopefully we can at least admit rural folks are absolutely correct in feeling like we hate them.

Lol, is that the same logic you apply to the civil war? The North just hated the South for their rural ways?

I wouldn’t agree with what the person you are responding to says, because I don’t think anyone deserves not be ripped from their homes. But I can understand why people would wish unpleasant times to people who voted to do exactly that.

Falsely equivocating all of that down to, “hating rural folks” for their country ways is inaccurate, ahistorical, and highly reductive.

I don’t understand what you’re saying. I’m trying to do the exact opposite of celebrating anyone’s misfortune. That’s kinda gross, to me

Oh please, the specific criticism you brought up unprovoked has been repeated nearly exclusively by leftist accelerationists who are too busy virtue signaling to even bother to participate with electorial harm reduction.

Understanding that people regularly vote against their own interest and then gleefully celebrate them doing so… You are also sounding real fucking evil bud.

Growth doesn’t mean revenue over cost anymore, it just means number go up. The easiest way to create growth from nothing is marketing tulips to venture capital and retail investors.

I think you mean to say, my “feels” are based on justification!

Is English your second language?

Btw abortions rock, I’m responsible for my fair share,

I dont think that’s the brag you seem to think it is?

but I think using clickbaiting as a weapon is bad, even when it’s for good causes

You haven’t explained how you think this is click bait… Something doesn’t automatically become click bait, just because you think it’s over an excitable topic. That would make all headlines click bait, based on the subjectivity of the observer.

“something (such as a headline) designed to make readers want to click on a hyperlink especially when the link leads to content of dubious value or interest”

There’s a reason we have the Jenova Convention, after all

Lol, it’s like I’m talking to an AI that’s done way too many whippits.

The geneva convention, is an agreement pertaining to how soldiers interact with civilians during times of conflict. It has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

But your “justification” is based on feels…

The article goes into great detail supporting the substance of the title, meaning it’s not click bait or manipulation.

You are the one attempting to manipulate people by claiming that the title is something it’s not.

Lol, you can’t confirm it’s click bait unless you read the article…

None of your critiques are valid, as the substance of the article is congruent with the messaging in the title.

You’re just being lazy.