All amounts to the same thing.

Your just a guy eh is in a position to choose 1 or 5. And did not. So from that point. Yes you chose to allow 4 people to die. The death of those people is on your hands when you chose to do nothing.

You seem desperate not to make the choice but the responsibility for that lack of choice still lies with you.

Just as you were in a position to choose trump or Harris. So trump is as much your fault for failing to vote a viable alternative. As if you had chosen to vote him. Just because do not like either option dose not forgive you the effect of not choosing.

You really seem to be failing to understand. And simple typos are easy to read around. I’m visually impaired so have little patience for that excuse.

As you said its a thought experiment. As you say you only have two options. Rejecting responsibility is the same as leaving the lever in the kill 5 position.

Pull or don’t pull. If you pull 1 person dies. If you don’t 5 die. There is no don’t kill.

Yes the person tieing them to the track murdered them. But just like not voting you don’t get to rewind time amd select better candidates. As the guy in the signal box. Your duty iss to direct the train. Just as your duty is to vote. Not wanting people to have been tied to the track is obviose but not an answer. Unless you are the one willing to invent a time machine. Your duty is still to direct the train.

Not voting leaves you with trump. Because you live in a fptp nation where 3rd parties just reduce the opposing vote.

Just like not pulling the lever means 5 folks died. You still had the task to direct the train. Refusing to pull the lever still leave you responsible for 5 rather then one dying.

Refusing to take responsibility dose not forgive you for failing to select the lesser evil. You are still directly responsible for choosing the greater evil by failing to pull the lever.

Rejecting responsibility and blaming others is not an option provided. Because the thought experiment recognises you live in a system where you have to make choices based on facts not your hopes and wishes. You live in a world where if you don’t have the option to stop the train. Or prevent the arsehole tying people to the tracks. You still have responsibilities. I refuse to play still has an effect on the world you live in. Like it or not.

Bollocks.

It is a thought experiment. Where you do not get to dobt murder someone.

That is the whole fucking point.

Just like not voting dosent stop evil running the nation.

You are the one misinterpreting. By some how inventing the dont murder somone option.

Just because you dont like it. Dos not mean you get to invent your own interpretations.

Amd its not misinterpreted. The whole point of using the trolly problem is as an example as it was designed. Thought experiments are there to help you interpret real actions by simplifying them. Not to be ignored as pointless.

You are still the one making the choice.

Hence why the trolly problem is equivalent to a political vote. Not voting has the same effect as not making a choice between one or 5.

If you are there before they get tied to the track you do more. But that is not the situation you are in on election day.

On election day its to late to change candidates. Just as its to late to try and untie the victims. If you do not have correct of the breaks or the ability to stop the trolly on time.

Your only option is to choose or not to choose the lesser of 2 evils.

Failing to choose is no less evil then choosing the worst.

Sorta like the trolly problem.

You can flip the lever to kill 5 or 1. But if you choose not to and also don’t fucking bother to hit the breaks. Your still responsible for killing 5 instead of 1.

If you are not willing to actually stop the evil fai.ing to selects make you the bigger evil.

All true. But the world also watched a huge amount of voters rejects dems over gaza. While trump had no better plans on gaxa.

Much like Ukraine his only argument is “i am better and every one else was stupid”

The argument often heard. “Voting the lesser of 2 evils is still voting evil”.

So yes these folks very much voted the greater of 2 evils by refusing to vote the lesser option. And much of the rest of the world is rightfully sorta pissed at the evil they allowed in.

Yeah thanks for the effort. You would be stunned at how many web sites make no effort.

Many modern web sites often fail miserably, especially scripted ones. But mostly because companies just don’t care. As you say it is hard work. So when companies outsource that hard work is rarely if ever asked for up front. And the cost to modify existing site is hugew…

But remember if we are talking software. Again all the pro measures are based on 0 or 100% able. So again leave all disabled depending on solutions that slow down workload.

All the laws on the West only require reasonable accomadations. And being less productive is never considered reasonable. Or in anyway a hope for a successful career.

So with so much software moving to Web apps. Those AA standards rarely help beyond making the page usable. If your career depends on performance as almost all do. Most disabled are not able to efficiently use them.

Honestly best approach is to find some small projects you feel need help. Introduce yourself to the development team and offer time and suggestions. Eventually one will say yes.

But as a visually impaired developer I’ll give you a heads up. Most pro non foss ui is freaking awfull for accessibility. The choices made over the last 20 year are just bad. OS is far from perfect. But I find the interfaces generally work way better with enlarged text then anything using modern UI ideals.

So please if you get involved. Remember accessibility is more complex the let voice assist work. Most blind folks have some vision. And rellying on the Systems accessibility options is not enough for us to be able to use software in a competitive way.

OS software using the UIs designers seem to dislike. Is generally more customisable for font sizes and colour options accross different parts of the system. In ways able folks would just never consider. This allows us to actually layout software so we only need magnifiers or text readers for things we individually rarely need to read. But can increase the stuff we do in ways that allow us to work at competitive speeds.

Modern UI design is pecomming less accessible as the software becomes much more complex but developers of ui tools seem to see disability as a 0 or 100% slowing disabled users with some ability down to the point they are unemployable.

Please please try to avoid moving the OS stuff we can use that way as well.

Go get drunk. You deserve it.

Back in my much older days, people used newsgroups/email/ and before that, magazines to work out how to use windows.

You guys that grew up with the windows’ dominance, forget all you actually had to learn. You think of windows like riding a bike. Not because of windows design. But because you have been doing it all your life and learned the stuff when you were freshly minded and quick to learn.

I’m not opposed to AI. Although atm it can get shit wrong more often then other sources so care is required.

But please stop thinking your need to learn is a Linux issue. Rather than a complex system issue. .

Well put. But yep, that pretty much somes it up.

The issue is how much stuff seems to just say. Let’s not bother at all. I will not the worst OS software for this has commercial names attached to it. Even when OS if some big company is responsible for funding. It’s down to the community to fight to get any decent support as a default. Capitalism really dose not want to care about disabled users unless forced. Or medical level profits are attached. But lets ;leave that mess out for now.

Yep no one seems to like it. Yet it keeps getting implemented.

My current conspiracy. It my brothers guide dog controlling the world so she has a job.

Grins Been non windows at home since the 90s. Lost my vision and mobility in the early 2000s. So really have not tried to use windows since.

But yeah I have 3 32-inch monitors, tend to have the magnifier on the alt key with the mouse to zoom. But only use it for setting up new software of the odd gnome menu stuff.

But every now and then you get some software that just refuses to follow the gui text hints and fails to give users any options. OS is way better than proprietary. But many developers just do not realise how little accessibility in the OS actually helps with workflow when they do not allow text customisation.

And what the F%$^ is it with pale grey on white text lately why the hell does anyone want that. Low contrast text and backgrounds seems to be a very annoying trend over the last 10 years.

Disabled users tend to customise a lot. Because no matter how well-intentioned the accessibility options may be. Most are actually unusable in real world situations.

Generally because developers are rarely disabled in the way being supported. And seem to assume full or 0 use. Never recognising we depend more on our limited abilities to see, hear or move than most able-bodied do. So options that try to replace 100% slow us down rather than making things easier. So we are forced to spend time trying to adapt colours fonts and sounds in ways they never consider. Just to be able to compete in any form of work.

Don’t get me wrong. Accessibility options are essential and more are needed. But for most disabled they are essential (when there at all) to allow us to access the device/software while we customise the displays and devices to actually be easy to use. Not for actually doing the work.

Desktops can be bad. Limited options for text on menus etc. But far far too much software seems to lock down layouts and forget that some users are unable to use it effectively without the ability to go in and customise everything.

(Today I’m looking at you guys, orca slicer. Cura is better but far from perfect, Blender developers. Please marry me. You guys are fantastic and getting better every release. )

Blender supports cuda for much of its gpu work. It will work with amd. And there are projects allowing gpu rendering via amd. But they are (and have been for a while) a long way behind the cuda stuff.

For major rendering projects nvidia is still the fastest set up to use.

AMD. Unless you need blender.

I think you underestimate the hate.

For the organisations that want to deny the ideals suggested. Using software under such a licence would lose them support. So when developers select such a licence. The software itself gets recognised as such. Meaning any shitty organisation using it gets labeled unacceptable to their very user base.

So requiring the acceptance of these facts would have the same effect as anything else.

Cheers ill look into it.

I think such a licence would need very careful wording. Wording that concentrates on the entity or organisation using rather then jurisdiction.

GPL claims free as in speech not beer. Whereas this would be removing that very concept. By suggesting use for some ideas is not allowed.

I can def see the advantage. Especially for people developing social software. But trying to form a licence like that. While not running fowl of existing GPL restrictions. Would take some seriose legal understanding. As making gpled current libraries incompatible. Could totally remove existing work to expand upon. Removing most developers desire to place the effort needed for the new software.

Would be interesting to watch the project form though. Unfortunately it would be very much like watching a dangerous stunt. Facinating as much for the risk of failure as that of hoping for success.